Even MORE brainstorming.....

[BINK McCARTY]

      Hows about this....3" shell / 2 ounces of  Federal HW shot #5,#6,#7 shot blended and covered with the resin like Win. LB shells use- fired between 1200-1300 FPS .


3 1/2" shell / 2.25 ounces of Federal HW shot #5,#6,#7 shot blended and covered with the resin like Win. LB shells use- fired at between 1200-1300 FPS.
NO FLITE CONTROL WAD!!!!!!!
Whatchall' think??? GIMME FEEDBACK,SUGGESTIONS,ETC....ETC....ETC.... AND THANK YE!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BandedSpur]

Those loads would be overpressure. Winch is known for running turkey loads as fast as they can safely be run. That's why the 3" 1.75 oz LB is at 1200 fps and they have to drop back to 1050 with the 1.875 oz load. The resin weighs something and has to be figured into the payload, reducing potential velocity to hold down the pressure.

Resin with HW pellets would not provide the benefit that it does for lead and is not necessary. The resin is there to keep the lead pellets round so they will fly true and pattern tightly. The HW pellets do not deform, so would not benefit from the resin. Some have postulated that the resin "glues" the pellets together making them pattern more tightly. That is incorrect; it shatters upon setback to form the perfect buffer to keep those lead pellets round, and that is all it does.

Minus the finicky 12 ga FCW, handloaders can make HW loads pattern as tightly as you want with no resin to compromise payload, pressure, and velocity.

[BINK McCARTY]

Those loads would be overpressure. Winch is known for running turkey loads as fast as they can safely be run. That's why the 3" 1.75 oz LB is at 1200 fps and they have to drop back to 1050 with the 1.875 oz load. The resin weighs something and has to be figured into the payload, reducing potential velocity to hold down the pressure.

Resin with HW pellets would not provide the benefit that it does for lead and is not necessary. The resin is there to keep the lead pellets round so they will fly true and pattern tightly. The HW pellets do not deform, so would not benefit from the resin. Some have postulated that the resin "glues" the pellets together making them pattern more tightly. That is incorrect; it shatters upon setback to form the perfect buffer to keep those lead pellets round, and that is all it does.

Minus the finicky 12 ga FCW, handloaders can make HW loads pattern as tightly as you want with no resin to compromise payload, pressure, and velocity.

Very good info. THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!!! I know next to nothing about reloading shotshells and was just thinkin' out-loud!!!!!

[Tom Foolery]

Anything bigger than 7's are wasted space


Straight 7's or straight 8's

[allaboutshooting]

In the past couple of years we've seen the WLB shells, 3rd Degree from Federal and Triple Beard as the first lead load from Hevi-Shot. We've also seen some variations on these loads, either payloads or different gauges. New shell introductions seem to run in cycles and this has been another good one.

Every new shell begins with an idea of what might work well. Like any new product, it's always tough to go from conception to market. There are so many considerations and roadblocks that can stop it at any stage. Even the very best product in its field may never make its way to us as consumers for any one of a number of reasons.

It is however the type of "brainstorming" that you've begun that's always the first step.

Good Work!

Thanks,
Clark

[BINK McCARTY]

In the past couple of years we've seen the WLB shells, 3rd Degree from Federal and Triple Beard as the first lead load from Hevi-Shot. We've also seen some variations on these loads, either payloads or different gauges. New shell introductions seem to run in cycles and this has been another good one.

Every new shell begins with an idea of what might work well. Like any new product, it's always tough to go from conception to market. There are so many considerations and roadblocks that can stop it at any stage. Even the very best product in its field may never make its way to us as consumers for any one of a number of reasons.

It is however the type of "brainstorming" that you've begun that's always the first step.

Good Work!

Thanks,
Clark

Thanks so much!!!!! You ALWAYS have helpful information and courteous comments!!!!!