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Started by Farmboy27, March 30, 2016, 07:56:28 PM

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Bowguy

Agreed. A lot of other posts I also agree with

tha bugman

Amen!


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Dr Juice

Unfortunately, our sport has become a marketing racket. Most of us have been sucked in, but we need to control ourselves from sinking entirely into the commercialism end of it. We have the KISS principle in the Army: Keep It Simple Stupid ... And I remind myself of that principle often. Good luck to all.

Spurs

Completely disagree....I enjoy talking chokes, she'll combinations, and guns in the off season to ease the "Off Season Blues".  I also love talking calls, setups, and land management for turkey for the same reason. 

Now, as far as the TV Personalities pushing their junk, hooping and hollering, and setting a bad example for our children, I am disgusted.  You just shot and killed one of Gods greatest creations, it deserves the respect and gratitude that any other creature deserves....Just my .02


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This year is going to suck!!!

goblr77

Quote from: Spitten and drummen on March 31, 2016, 12:14:36 AM
I may sound greedy  but what I miss most is the number of turkey hunters. I started hunting turkeys in 1978 and then you could go to public land and hunt vocal birds all season and see only a handful of hunters all season. When they saw you parked somewhere they respected you and moved on to another. All the videos and outdoor programs imploded the sport. Now you have people on every other Ridge hammering them with owl and crow calls or ripping out Cutts and cackles like they see on tv. Bumping birds left and right. I have even seen people out there calling birds up before season. Turkey hunting is already tough but throw in all the extra education that some folks give them , it puts it at a higher level. Just ranting a little.

Amen. The number of hunters is the worst part about turkey hunting these days.

Cutt

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Quote from: Greg Massey on March 31, 2016, 12:34:50 AM
First off lets remember that not all of us are able to hunt like we use to in our younger days. We are looking at two different methods of hunting here one is the still hunter or as you call me the blind hunter and the second one is the spot and stalk hunter or as a lot of people call you the run and gunner.

I think you are confusing the definitions of still hunter and run and gunner, for most turkey hunters, even though their are some that might do that? As still hunting with most is just sitting against a tree or in a spot for hours, just beacuse one is still hunting, does not mean they are using a blind. And run and gunning is not spot and stalk to most hunters. It's simply a means of locating a vocal gobbler without seeing him, just knowing his where abouts from gobbles only and setting up effectively for the situation. Then one would pick a tree, or spot to sit and call him, wait him out and not stalk him, there is a big difference, as stalking is illegal in many States as it is here.

Quote from: Greg Massey on March 31, 2016, 12:34:50 AM
Veteran turkey hunters like myself has to hunt out of blinds for personal health reason but because of these problems with my health do you guys think i should just stop hunting because you don't like blinds ?

Not at all if that's what one must do, to each his own? I can clearly understand if someone is disabled, wheelchair, etc. But if for just basic health reasons, I think it would take more energy carrying the thing in and setting it up, then just sitting against a tree, unless health reasons have someone else carrying it and setting it up for them, I can understand that.

catman529

I see and hear plenty of guys hooting and hollering, yelping and screeching, walking all the trails with their loaded vests and camo guns, all over the public land. It's just part of it. but the good thing is, most people who walk around blowing owl calls, screeching on box calls, making noise and movement all the time just to impatiently try and find a bird, will run out of steam before lunch and leave the woods a lot more empty when lone birds are often free gobbling.   Same goes for someone who walks in while it's dark, sets up their blind and decoys over a field where they saw tracks, and sit for a few hours...they too will get bored with just sitting there, and will probably go get lunch too.


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TRG3

The turkey season in Southern Illinois comes in on Monday, April 4th. I'm headed for a spot that others will be driving by on their way to a "better" spot. I've taken at least a half-dozen toms from the base of the same giant cottonwood tree, sometimes at the crack of dawn but more likely later in the morning. It's a great place to call and wait for a jealous gobbler to come in to check out my decoys, sometimes while I'm taking a nap from a night of sleeplessness like happened a couple of years back when I was awakened by a gobbler beating up my Pretty Boy! Most gobblers will come running across the 20 acre picked crop field but once one came from my blind side, gobbling only 30' from my hidden position! I don't hunt from a blind because it restricts my vision but when it's raining it would be nice. Being in my middle 70s, I plan to keep hunting for years to come and will make the necessary accommodations to allow that to happen when the time comes. Do what you need to do to keep in the game.

Greg Massey

No i think your confused Cutt...Sitting is someone who stays put for several hours trying to decide whether to stick it out and hunt a spot from a blind or from sitting next to a tree. Run and gunning or stalking is a hunter that makes a decision to execute a plan whether it's a turkey you have seen from a field edge as you make you way around your hunting area. I agree turkey hunting is not all about just sitting and waiting. Can spotting and stalking turkeys be unsafe and un-ethical this type of hunting could put you in range of another hunter who could be tresspassing on your hunting ground and also on public ground again if this is the changes you want to take that fine. I feel either way of hunting has it's challenges whether its from a bought blind or a blind that you brushed around a tree your sitting again. As for as health problems goes hunters with health problems has more than just one challenge. First if he or she want to continue hunting they have to find ways of making life easier. From having a nice blind setup on a field or on a ridge top in the woods from using four wheeler or nice side x side it's whatever helps you in being successful. Health problems has NO age it could be a youth hunter with health problems or it could be the 70 year old hunter that still feels the need and want to go turkey hunting also the same with deer hunting. YOU can use any method that works. I would rather call them in knowing iv'e used my bag full of calls and my skills to the best of my ability, that a successful hunt for me. But again i'm not judging you on your spot and stalk and running and gunning if that's what it takes for you to be successful. Is this fair play that's for you to decide. Turkey hunting is the enjoyment of getting ready for the opening morning and hearing that gobbler fire off just as it breaks day light.. Regardless what you call LEGAL or unethical its just how you prefer to hunt. Either way IMO your still need all kinds of skill sets to be consistent in killing turkeys. In my opinion there always a certain amount of stalking involved in turkey hunting whether from blinds or running and gunning to get an effective set-up.

Cutt

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Quote from: Greg Massey on March 31, 2016, 01:34:15 PM
No i think your confused Cutt...Sitting is someone who stays put for several hours trying to decide whether to stick it out and hunt a spot from a blind or from sitting next to a tree.

No I'm not confused I basically said the same exact thing with sitting, with the exception, that just because someone elects to sit for hours, doesn't mean they are using a blind, some might use one for long sits, and some don't use them for long sits. Maybe I shouldn't have said still hunting, but meant one who is hunting still, not actually still hunting.

As for running and gunning or stalking you are lumping the two together, there is a big difference. Running and gunning you move for a better postion, not within shooting distance of the turkey, calling still applies to get him to your location. Stalking is sneaking and moving in on turkeys within shooting range where one would not have to call, because they are close enough to shoot, a very big difference.

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zeke632

I didn't mean to sound like I thought it was a bad thing to use decoys or hunt out of a blind. I'm not judging anyone!  I think everyone ought it hunt however each person wants to hunt !  It's all about having fun and enjoying yourself.  I apologize if my earlier comments sounded like my way is how everyone is supposed to hunt

Cutt

Quote from: zeke632 on March 31, 2016, 05:32:55 PM
I didn't mean to sound like I thought it was a bad thing to use decoys or hunt out of a blind. I'm not judging anyone!  I think everyone ought it hunt however each person wants to hunt !  It's all about having fun and enjoying yourself.  I apologize if my earlier comments sounded like my way is how everyone is supposed to hunt

I don't think you have to apologize, everyone is entitled to an opinion, and without opinions, this thread would have no hotness.

Greg Massey

I agree with Cutt ...all opinions are welcome ... just like Cutt and myself, we can disagree all we want but the great part is we are both turkey hunters no matter how we go about it in the field...we just do it in different ways...