if you're talking about a kee kee, the way I do it is by getting right on the edge of the call where the playing surface meets the pot it self, and use a little more pressure than normal. Then work the striker around the edge. Most of my calls I can get somewhere between 1/4"-1-2" off the edge but much more than that and it Starts to mellow out to much for a kee kee. I'll try to post a video.