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Started by olejake, February 27, 2016, 08:55:30 PM
Quote from: beagler on March 02, 2016, 08:32:15 PMWe killed three last weekend in front of the hounds.
Quote from: Farmboy27 on March 04, 2016, 02:26:55 PMWith all due respect Hogbiologist, I don't see how the intruders invading because of a "vacuum" are going to cause anymore predation than the ones killed in the first place. As a turkey and deer hunter I'm going to kill the predators of these animals anytime that I legally get the chance to. And although I am not a biologist, many years of coyote hunting has taught me that, at least around here, they are not terribly territorial. There isn't a line of coyotes waiting to get into a certain area as soon as one in that area is killed. Killing predators (when legal) may or may not help turkey populations. But it sure isn't going to hurt.
Quote from: HogBiologist on March 04, 2016, 01:57:38 PMThere have been some studies done recently with coyotes. They show that by disturbing the social structure (taking out individuals) you may be increasing your predation rates. By removing members you create a vacuum for invaders to come in and investigate the territory. By having new members covering the area, you increase predator/prey interactions. Also, if you are feeding corn or other feed (protein pellets, etc) you are increasing P/P interaction. Feeding stations attract turkeys and they nest near those locations. Your other opportunistic animals (nest predators) key in on those locations and studies have shown that nests within a certain distance were 100% predated. Your larger predators are also using the bait stations to pick off adult prey. If you feed deer corn, you are also poisoning your turkeys. Deer corn is sold as wildlife feed because it contains high alflatoxin rates. Turkeys are very succeptible to alflatoxin. Just a little can be lethal. Theses are just some quick thoughts I had after reading how gun-ho you guys are about killing coyotes. Very few people actually have the time to put in the intense effort to properly control predators.
Quote from: HogBiologist on March 04, 2016, 03:10:56 PMQuote from: Farmboy27 on March 04, 2016, 02:26:55 PMWith all due respect Hogbiologist, I don't see how the intruders invading because of a "vacuum" are going to cause anymore predation than the ones killed in the first place. As a turkey and deer hunter I'm going to kill the predators of these animals anytime that I legally get the chance to. And although I am not a biologist, many years of coyote hunting has taught me that, at least around here, they are not terribly territorial. There isn't a line of coyotes waiting to get into a certain area as soon as one in that area is killed. Killing predators (when legal) may or may not help turkey populations. But it sure isn't going to hurt. The study I'm referring to was done with GPS collars and tracking of coyotes in an area. It showed that when you took out members they went from patrolling their area to having new infiltrating invaders crisscrossing the entire area and trying to dominate the new area. This caused more animals to be encountered more in the interior of their home range.