Jay I think I found the are that bird was in. I relook at my map and I found a saddle by the house thats up there. I know that bird had to be by that old house, the roost I found is about 100 to 200 yards from there. And it makes sense that we couldnt hear him. The creek was flowing pretty good and it was hard to hear anything from there. I came up with a plan to get in there and hunt this bird. Hopefully I get him on wen. or thurs.