So just for the fun of it I went out and patterned my 12 guage beneli using the factory full choke. I used 3 different shells. Longbeards, winchester extended range pheasant, and federal prairie storm. Shot all 3 at 30 yards. Longbeards had the tightest pattern but not by much. The other 2 pheasant loads were not far behind. I would not hesitate using them