Tight 10. cirlce pattern vs. bigger even pattern?

[Cutt]

As with patterning various Hevi loads I did not get the high numbers in a 10in. circle at 40 yards I thought I would? But after looking at my pattern with 3in. 2oz. #7's I questioned if I'd really want it tighter?

I realize the 10i. circle is just a tool, but do we but to much emphasis on it, overlooking more even patterns?
As with many 10in. patterns I see, the aiming point is way of on the majority of them. I realize many still need centered, but there is less room for error if one should pull a shot slightly. As where the more even pattern would have more room for error?

I realize the numbers in the 10in. are not that impressive, but it's an even pattern where a turkeys head anywhere within the pattern is dead. Now a tighter pattern will put more shot in him if the shot is precise and dead on, but might not fair as well if the shot is off slightly compare to the bigger even pattern?

Would you strive for higher numbers in a 10in. circle, or be happy with a more even pattern? Do we put too much attention on this overlooking a possible better thing? What's your opinion?

Pattern: 11-87 Super Mag, Hevi #7's 3in. 2oz. load, with .665 Jellyhead

152 in a 10in. circle, not impressive, but the vast majority of the shot within a 20in. circle

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[S.C.C]

With the h13 7's at 1090fps and that pattern at 40 yards,I would shoot HV lead #6 shot before the 7's hevi.

[archery1]

what choke? i only got 179 in a 10" circle at 40 yds.. i used a ic choke .675
i shot the hevi 3" 7's also

[shootumindaface]

With the h13 7's at 1090fps and that pattern at 40 yards,I would shoot HV lead #6 shot before the 7's hevi.

Yup x2

These patterns have gone to crap in a hurry

[Cutt]

With the h13 7's at 1090fps and that pattern at 40 yards,I would shoot HV lead #6 shot before the 7's hevi.

What's your reasoning? I'm new to Hevi?

But my impression is the Hevi #7's would have as much knock down as a lead #5's? So why shoot  lead #6's? Does not make sense just from what I've been reading?

[shootumindaface]

With the h13 7's at 1090fps and that pattern at 40 yards,I would shoot HV lead #6 shot before the 7's hevi.

What's your reasoning? I'm new to Hevi?

But my impression is the Hevi #7's would have as much knock down as a lead #5's? So why shoot  lead #6's? Does not make sense just from what I've been reading?

That load last year was putting up close to 300 before EM tinkered.. Even with that choke and last years load you would be well above 200..

The numbers you are putting up are attainable with lead thus the performance does not justify the cost

[S.C.C]

HEVI 7's at 1090=Not even close to lead 6's at 1300 as far as knock down power.

[gatrkyhntr70]

With the h13 7's at 1090fps and that pattern at 40 yards,I would shoot HV lead #6 shot before the 7's hevi.

What's your reasoning? I'm new to Hevi?

But my impression is the Hevi #7's would have as much knock down as a lead #5's? So why shoot  lead #6's? Does not make sense just from what I've been reading?

That load last year was putting up close to 300 before EM tinkered.. Even with that choke and last years load you would be well above 200..

The numbers you are putting up are attainable thus the performance does not justify the cost

X2, couldnt have said it better.

[Cutt]

HEVI 7's at 1090=Not even close to lead 6's at 1300 as far as knock down power.

So all the reading where many state Hevi has the same knock down due to it's density, as 2 sizes smaller than lead, are all just myths?

In other words I'm reading a Hevi 7 would be equivalant to a lead 5 at 40 yards, a Hevi 6 = to a 4 lead at 40 yards? as for knockdown capability?

[joeyc]

I would personally be happy with the 500+ #7 pellets evenly spaced in a 20 in. circle for 40 yd or under shots.  I would also prefer the 120 or so extra #7 pellets vs. the #6 HV Pb loads. Not really sure what the advantage of 300 vs. 200 pellets in 10 in. would be other than putting more pellets in a dead bird.

[BigPeck215]

its important to note that the advertised speed is 1090 but the 3-2-7 have been chronod this year at over 1230fps, i will take a hevi 7's going at 1230fps over a lead 5 going at 1300 fps any day, a 7 at that speed would outpenetrate the lighter lead 5, its not so much about speed as it is density

would you rather be hit with a ping pong ball at 3000 fps or a golf ball at 500fps

[Cutt]

Not really sure what the advantage of 300 vs. 200 pellets in 10 in. would be other than putting more pellets in a dead bird.

That's my view or point I was trying to make, are we overlooking overall patterns by trying to tighten up too much? I agree, not sure what the number is, but so many in a 10in. cirlce is enough at some poit? So wouldn't it make more sense to have some on the edge of the 10in. circle for room to error? My exact point.

[Cutt]

its important to note that the advertised speed is 1090 but the 3-2-7 have been chronod this year at over 1230fps, i will take a hevi 7's going at 1230fps over a lead 5 going at 1300 fps any day, a 7 at that speed would outpenetrate the lighter lead 5, its not so much about speed as it is density

would you rather be hit with a ping pong ball at 3000 fps or a golf ball at 500fps

Thank You BigPeck, Thank You!

[doepee]

This is my first year shooting the heavy 7s. I thought they had the power of at least lead 6s and I did hear 5s.   I shoot a sbe2 and a Jellyhead .660 . I was dissapointed also  when I went and patterned . Is there proof that they have the velocity in the 1200 fps catagory?  I always used winchester hv in 6s and never had a problem..

                                  The heavy 7s also didnt kick like they were in the 1200 fps range . When you shoot a 1300 fps winchester you know it..

[shootumindaface]

This is my first year shooting the heavy 7s. I thought they had the power of at least lead 6s and I did hear 5s.   I shoot a sbe2 and a Jellyhead .660 . I was dissapointed also  when I went and patterned . Is there proof that they have the velocity in the 1200 fps catagory?  I always used winchester hv in 6s and never had a problem..

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