So while looking at the Ithaca 20 ga. Turkey Slayer and a Benelli today my dealer shows me a gun he took in trade this morning. It's a Remington 1187 20 ga., quite a few years old in I think what was green leaf cammo. Looked good enough. You can tell it's seen the woods a time or two, but I really liked it. Really short barrel. Don't know exactly but I would say 21" to 23". Any thoughts or opinions on an older 20 ga. 1187. He was priced high in my opinion, $659, but I can work in that. Let me know and thanks as always.