I bought a box of Fed. Mag shok, 2.75 #5's that I'll give a whirl in my Rem 11, and my Savage 720. I also see that they make them in #7's too, may have to try them next! I'm wanting to send the savage barrel to Sumtoy, and have it threaded for Tru chokes, and then have him make me a .670, that should be bad medicine for turkey heads! I've never patterned it but the Rem 11 shoots the express #4's very well!