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Started by mookyj, May 29, 2014, 09:32:47 AM
Quote from: spaightlabs on May 29, 2014, 07:48:52 PMMr. Joyner, can you please explain your allegation that any of the behaviors in your piece are unethical?unsafe=unethical for purposes of my blog postJust because you haven't or don't do it does not make it unethical. No matter how bigtime you think you are. Your soap box seems more like a high horse. bigtime? hardly it doesn't pay my mortgage. You don't like my opinion, so you make a comment on my ego....poor argument on your part. Not sure why this is being spun as a personal....... I started of the blog saying I was on a big soap box and why....or did you just skip over that detail?
Quote from: Timberland Taxidermy on May 29, 2014, 09:40:59 PMQuote from: g8rvet on May 29, 2014, 05:58:28 PMNow, to be clear, Mooky is not trying to ban anything. Just expressing an opinion on a practice, as is his right. That is not true at all. Here is what he says:QuoteIf you come to the same or similar conclusion as I, let your wildlife agencies know, and hopefully ban this practice...g8rvet is correct, if you agree with me, make your voice heard Banning it is my opinion, You either agree or not, I have no power over others opinion other than putting it out there for all of you to ponder. It is my right as it is yours to express an opinion. Nothing stopping you from putting out your own blog. It's that simpleQuote from: g8rvet on May 29, 2014, 05:59:55 PMQuoteultra real looking decoys are mitigating circumstances. Wait a sec. Are you now saying that using ultra real dekes is asking for it too? Just trying to understand. Yes he is. QuoteI cannot go along with $100-$400 decoys made to be ultra realistic or done as production line taxidermy. Seriously, if you put out a taxidermy mount or one of these über expensive decoys, how is one going to explain that away at trial for a shooting incident in the turkey woods.
Quote from: g8rvet on May 29, 2014, 05:58:28 PMNow, to be clear, Mooky is not trying to ban anything. Just expressing an opinion on a practice, as is his right.
QuoteIf you come to the same or similar conclusion as I, let your wildlife agencies know, and hopefully ban this practice...
Quote from: g8rvet on May 29, 2014, 05:59:55 PMQuoteultra real looking decoys are mitigating circumstances. Wait a sec. Are you now saying that using ultra real dekes is asking for it too? Just trying to understand.
Quoteultra real looking decoys are mitigating circumstances.
QuoteI cannot go along with $100-$400 decoys made to be ultra realistic or done as production line taxidermy. Seriously, if you put out a taxidermy mount or one of these über expensive decoys, how is one going to explain that away at trial for a shooting incident in the turkey woods.
Quote from: Marc on May 30, 2014, 01:13:15 AMI do not know enough about this particular subject to comment on the validity of creating regulation against it ...But, I do not for one second believe that just because something is legal, it is therefore ethical... I also believe that hunters should indeed be the biggest stewards of the outdoors and hunting.If a method gives an obvious unfair advantage to the hunters (say electronic calls), or proves to be unsafe (such as wearing a realistic turkey hat during turkey season), I would say it would be in the hunters best interest to make such illegal, or create some regulation.As hunters, we are the ones both looking out for the best interest of the game we chase, the safety of other hunters, and our own hunting rights. It would seem to me that interceding before a topic becomes a public interest is in the benefit of ourselves and our future rights as hunters...On the other hand, it would be impossible, as well as counterproductive to create regulations that would adhere to the personal ethics of all hunters... I am not a fan of regulation or imposing such unless there is a true benefit to the game being chased, the safety of hunters, or the rights of other hunters (i.e. setting up on another hunter's decoy spread as an example)...That being said, this does seem to be a topic/method worth a second look by hunters and those who regulate hunting... It seems to me to be equally foolish to create unnecessary regulations as it would to ignore the necessity of others...
Quote from: mookyj on May 29, 2014, 10:22:10 PMQuote from: spaightlabs on May 29, 2014, 07:48:52 PMMr. Joyner, can you please explain your allegation that any of the behaviors in your piece are unethical?unsafe=unethical for purposes of my blog postJust because you haven't or don't do it does not make it unethical. No matter how bigtime you think you are. Your soap box seems more like a high horse. bigtime? hardly it doesn't pay my mortgage. You don't like my opinion, so you make a comment on my ego....poor argument on your part. Not sure why this is being spun as a personal....... I started of the blog saying I was on a big soap box and why....or did you just skip over that detail?
Quote from: stinkpickle on May 30, 2014, 10:03:06 AMGeez people...just chase your bird any legal way you want, shoot it, tag it, and get out of the woods so somebody else can do the same.
Quote from: BC on May 30, 2014, 08:38:19 AMWell I know one thing.I sure am glad we have guys like Mike who will save us from ourselves and govern things the way they see fit. After all they know what's best for all of us based off their opinion that they derived from no basis of fact whatsoever. Thanks Mike.....
Quote from: GobbleNut on May 30, 2014, 10:24:27 AM...Will we ultimately be so successful at killing gobblers with all of these hunting methods in use that we will jeopardize our turkey populations,...and in doing so, jeopardize our entire spring gobbler hunting tradition? At what point do we become too effective at killing turkeys for their, and our, own good?
Quote from: Grant Flaming on May 30, 2014, 09:52:06 AMA bit different direction...I know a number of people have mentioned it, but I absolutely HATE the term "turkey reaping." It sounds like the equivalent of a cheap porno for turkey hunting. I think that kill-oriented language has strong potential to turn non-hunters off in a hurry. Obviously, harvesting a bird is the ultimate goal of our hunting, but the actual kill is just the final chapter of a book that is written all through spring (sorry to get all poetic ). It is sad that many people's only impression of hunting (or just killing) comes from what they see on TV. Too many of these shows are all about killing, killing, selling products, and more killing. Here is an idea for a turkey hunting show: turkey hunting for the first 25 minutes and then a kill for the last 5. Not short clips of suicidal birds running to a setup, getting shot, and then a hunter going on and on about how that new load really whacked him at 45-60 yards. Sorry, I have just had enough of hunting shows lately and all the "reaping, turkey armageddon, long range HV Beard Buster turkey load" crap that goes with them. Rant over.