O.k., so, sorted it all out...Was able to get phenomenally tight patterns at 20 yds. from 3" Mag. Blends, 2 oz. and Down N Dirty outdoors (Indian Creek) Haymaker .670. 20 yd. is about 7-8 inches and the 40 yd. uniform and good coverage. I didn't count pellets since I was late for an Easter gathering, but PLENTY good for hunting. The wad cup imbedded itself in the target at 20 yds almost in center of pattern...Happy, happy, happy!