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Started by decoykrvr, February 24, 2014, 10:38:27 AM
Quote from: Xcal1ber on February 24, 2014, 08:20:12 PMMy god, they'll both kill at 40 yards won't they? Then I don't understand what all this fuss is about.
Quote from: decoykrvr on February 24, 2014, 10:38:27 AMMy only diconcerting observation on the XR's, and I only patterened them at 40 yards, was that the wads were all recovered approximately 18 yards from my shooting position which is indicative of an extremely tight close pattern.
Quote from: Number17 on February 24, 2014, 11:19:42 PMAnd another thing. LBs are just another way of throwing a lead pattern, or just another way of stacking lead into a shot shell.Coming out of the barrel at 1200 fps they are still just your everyday lead shot, and lead shot has been dumping turkeys for quite some time now.I just ordered 2 boxes of 5s to try out and I'm not concerning myself with testing penetration one bit. I KNOW what they will do already.
Quote from: CASH on February 24, 2014, 11:47:13 AMOP, I'll take that last post means your thread is no longer high jacked. Carry on
Quote from: SumToy on February 24, 2014, 09:07:23 PMQuote from: Xcal1ber on February 24, 2014, 08:20:12 PMMy god, they'll both kill at 40 yards won't they? Then I don't understand what all this fuss is about.Yes they both will. You can shoot cheap or high dollar and kill birds. Then you can bump your head and shoot HIGH DOLLAR tss.
Quote from: huntindawg on February 25, 2014, 11:45:26 AMQuote from: SumToy on February 24, 2014, 09:07:23 PMQuote from: Xcal1ber on February 24, 2014, 08:20:12 PMMy god, they'll both kill at 40 yards won't they? Then I don't understand what all this fuss is about.Yes they both will. You can shoot cheap or high dollar and kill birds. Then you can bump your head and shoot HIGH DOLLAR tss.Or for the same amount as buying one of your chokes, you could buy enough TSS to load shells for 5 years of killing, shoot them out of the factory choke, and outperform any longbeard pattern out there...
Quote from: CrustyRusty on February 25, 2014, 01:29:45 PMCheap shot Huntindawg...sum toy is always helpful on this site, doesn't push his products on here and I have actually seen him advise folks to use chokes other than his. He wasn't trashing anyone on here or making snide comments, he just poked a little fun at tss and you made it personal.
Quote from: decoykrvr on February 25, 2014, 11:09:34 AMUnfortunately, alot of folks are going to read the slick marketing hype perpetrated by Winchester and assume that 60 yards is the new 40 yards with regard to "killing range".
Quote from: trkehunr93 on February 25, 2014, 06:33:23 PMI think we are getting WAY, WAY, WAY to caught up in how far shot penetrates thru metal and into wood and the rock the target was next to, turkey's are made of skin and bone just like us and their bones are alot smaller. All we really need to be worried about is whether or not we are sending ENOUGH shot, regardless of the size, type and how many grams it weighs, at a turkeys head to break his neck on impact. When I started turkey hunting in the early 90's my mentor who was an old school hunter told me I needed to pattern my shotgun to make sure it sent an acceptable amount of shot down range into the head and neck to kill a gobbler. That was it, kill a gobbler! Granted lead may be softer than HTL but I bet at 1200 fps with an acceptable pattern turkeys will die all the live long day by copper plated lead, coated in resin or not. My 2 cents!