Longbeard 3.5" #6, 870sm, sumtoy .665 WOW!

[drum817]

Any one else try this ammo with this outcome?  Just wondering if it is gun/choke specific.  I have an 870/sumtoy choke.

One thing this has got me to looking at is barrel length.   Alot of the bigger numbers seems to be coming from short barrels.     

Could be because the shatterd resin has less time to disperse in the short barrel than it does in the longer barrels, thus holding the shot cup together longer and providing tighter patterns.   

Few things to think about.  It all has to do with the Resin just have not figured what it is doing. LOL

We have found that the small bore barrels have gone crazy with the shell.  The short barrel guns shoot better then long barrel guns.  I think it has to do with the pressure more then anything.

If the weather is good I will be patterning my Weatherby pa-459 Friday (tomorrow).  It is a 18.5" barrel (less the choke.... 20" after the choke) and it's threaded Ber/Ben.  gonna be shooting the 3" #6 LB's through the SumToy .650 .....we will see!

[cuppednlocked]

I'll be shooting my 23" 870SM next weekend.

[reflexl]

Awsome!!!!!

[tomstopper]

Awsome!!!!!

x2

[SCTrky10]

Wow! Impressive!

[3" 870 Shell Shucker]

SumToy has the hot chokes for those shells.

I like the idea of a .665 too. 

[surehuntsalot]

fantastic looking pattern

[learn2hide]

that's scary dense man...you should even try the bigger shot to max out the energy but with those numbers if you put up a similar pattern like 180-200 with #4's or 5's that would be insane!  Congrats to you and Winchester/SumToy.  I bought some 3.5" #5's in Longbeard XR just to give em a whirl.  Has anyone shot a super tight set up like this at 15 yards? I'm a little worried that the glued together pellets will literally shoot 2" wide at that range which could cause some issues.  Just wondering?

[300Mag]

I have a 26 inch barrel on my 870. I shot the 6's I mean 7's lol with my 665 jelly head and got 294. The factory RSF choke was in the 250's.

[Gooserbat]

WoW is all I got to say. 

[albrubacker]

WOW 

[cuppednlocked]

The Longbeard shells are certainly throwing a swarm of pellets!

[Woods-n-water]

Shot my 870 with a 20 in barrel today. Ventilator choke. Longbeard 3" #6 @. 40 yds, 70 degrees. 200 in the 10. Dead turkey all day.

[WVHills]

Sick. Can't wait to try my .665 Sumtoy! 

[strutlife]

I think William(sumtoy) is correct. The resin is holding it together. My opinion or question, The resin has to not contain any type of flammable ingredients so that it will hold together after the powder ignites and burnes or, Does the resin have high temp rating that does allow it to somewhat "melt" to a certain degree to hold it together and the fps eventually increases to the point that it separates? Does it "melt" at a certain point and then reverses once it has cooled from air temp and separates? Only the folks at Winchester can answer this question, and I think there is only a select few who know the ingredients of the resin.