i shot the first 5 longbeards with a 10ga with these shell and they did great but quit using them after i had on miss fire. yes i am not joking i had a gobbler standing in my decoys cocked the hammer let it rip and it sounded like a m80 in water and i could see the pellets and wad come out the barrel. i was just baffled couldnt believe it never seen this before. the hull was melted funny and smelled like burnt hair. that gobbler was the luckiest sob i have ever seen. probably just my clark grizwald luck but just wanted to let you know. oh yeah and this was out of a brand new box but the older version with the black brass.
