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Quote from: rio_wrangler on March 19, 2013, 11:50:12 AMQuote from: 01Foreman400 on March 15, 2013, 02:38:48 PMIn the 3.5" 2 7/16 oz. load they are definitely worth it. No other company loads anything like it. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe 2 1/4 oz loads will pattern better, guaranteed!
Quote from: 01Foreman400 on March 15, 2013, 02:38:48 PMIn the 3.5" 2 7/16 oz. load they are definitely worth it. No other company loads anything like it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: rio_wrangler on March 19, 2013, 04:37:06 PMQuote from: 01Foreman400 on March 19, 2013, 04:20:35 PMQuote from: rio_wrangler on March 19, 2013, 11:50:12 AMQuote from: 01Foreman400 on March 15, 2013, 02:38:48 PMIn the 3.5" 2 7/16 oz. load they are definitely worth it. No other company loads anything like it. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe 2 1/4 oz loads will pattern better, guaranteed!Show me some patterns. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkHere you go these are #7s, not my best patterns, but real good. I can show you some 350s in the 10 at 40 yds out of #6s
Quote from: 01Foreman400 on March 19, 2013, 04:20:35 PMQuote from: rio_wrangler on March 19, 2013, 11:50:12 AMQuote from: 01Foreman400 on March 15, 2013, 02:38:48 PMIn the 3.5" 2 7/16 oz. load they are definitely worth it. No other company loads anything like it. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe 2 1/4 oz loads will pattern better, guaranteed!Show me some patterns. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: rio_wrangler on March 20, 2013, 09:41:46 AMQuote from: USMC0331 on March 19, 2013, 05:03:05 PMI don't use 10" circle, I use pellets in head method. What combo are you using that is better? If it works better in my 870, I want it if you don't mind giving me the choke and shell combo plus if it saves me money that's even better.Thanks for any help.The reason for the 10" circle, and not a turkey head/neck, is that in the real world, a turkey's head/neck isn't ever perfectly still, something is always moving, therefore with a sparse pattern, a turkey could be shot at, and still survive. That being said, I look for a nice dense and even 10" pattern with an even 20" pattern, therefore all error is taken in account for.As for a combo better than Nitros, hevishot is inherently not uniform is size or shape, and therefore it can effect both patterns and killing energy. This is especially true since nitro is notorious for loading subsized shot (I believe there is another topic very recently on this). While the Nitro patterns look great on paper, they don't have the true knockdown that other shells do, because they can't carry the energy that other shells do.On the other hand, Winchester EXtd #6s, and Federal HW #7s are a much better option, simply because they are more consistent in size and shape, which first of all will pattern well, and carry more consistent energy downrange, not to mention the HW shot at 15g/cc packs 20% more energy than 12g/cc shot at the same velocity. The key to these is finding your gun/choke combo to go with these shells that works. I would talk to Sumtoy Customs or Rob Roberts for either of these loadings, but especially the Fed HW shells as they seem to have the handle on making the Feds shoot great. As for the Winchester EXtd, most of you high quality chokes will shoot these shells extremely well.The key here is more consistent size and shape in your shot is going to pattern more consistent and carry more consistent energy, and therefore more consistently kill birds in any situation you are faced with. The only thing better than that, is to handload your own where you know exactly what it going into each shell, and the precision involved, so that everytime you pull the trigger you know what the results should be.
Quote from: USMC0331 on March 19, 2013, 05:03:05 PMI don't use 10" circle, I use pellets in head method. What combo are you using that is better? If it works better in my 870, I want it if you don't mind giving me the choke and shell combo plus if it saves me money that's even better.Thanks for any help.
Quote from: gophert on March 20, 2013, 12:35:23 PMQuote from: rio_wrangler on March 20, 2013, 09:41:46 AMQuote from: USMC0331 on March 19, 2013, 05:03:05 PMI don't use 10" circle, I use pellets in head method. What combo are you using that is better? If it works better in my 870, I want it if you don't mind giving me the choke and shell combo plus if it saves me money that's even better.Thanks for any help.The reason for the 10" circle, and not a turkey head/neck, is that in the real world, a turkey's head/neck isn't ever perfectly still, something is always moving, therefore with a sparse pattern, a turkey could be shot at, and still survive. That being said, I look for a nice dense and even 10" pattern with an even 20" pattern, therefore all error is taken in account for.As for a combo better than Nitros, hevishot is inherently not uniform is size or shape, and therefore it can effect both patterns and killing energy. This is especially true since nitro is notorious for loading subsized shot (I believe there is another topic very recently on this). While the Nitro patterns look great on paper, they don't have the true knockdown that other shells do, because they can't carry the energy that other shells do.On the other hand, Winchester EXtd #6s, and Federal HW #7s are a much better option, simply because they are more consistent in size and shape, which first of all will pattern well, and carry more consistent energy downrange, not to mention the HW shot at 15g/cc packs 20% more energy than 12g/cc shot at the same velocity. The key to these is finding your gun/choke combo to go with these shells that works. I would talk to Sumtoy Customs or Rob Roberts for either of these loadings, but especially the Fed HW shells as they seem to have the handle on making the Feds shoot great. As for the Winchester EXtd, most of you high quality chokes will shoot these shells extremely well.The key here is more consistent size and shape in your shot is going to pattern more consistent and carry more consistent energy, and therefore more consistently kill birds in any situation you are faced with. The only thing better than that, is to handload your own where you know exactly what it going into each shell, and the precision involved, so that everytime you pull the trigger you know what the results should be.A bunch of truth in this post!