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Medical Excise Tax & OBAMA CARE - MUST READ !!!

Started by Byhalia, February 20, 2013, 11:59:03 AM

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Byhalia

Thanks again to all who helped put this abomination in the white house.
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Medical Excise Tax on Retail Receipts Show How We're Screwed by Obamacare, page 1


The receipt (pictured at left) spells out what Obama and the feds want to keep secret – the middle class is being heavily taxed despite all the fatuous rhetoric of Democrats who invariably play the class warfare card to sell their confiscatory taxation policies.

"The 2.3% Medical Excise Tax that began on January 1st is supposed to be 'hidden' from the consumer, but it's been brought to the public's attention by hunting and fishing store Cabela's who have refused to hide it and are showing it as a separate line item tax on their receipts," the email states.
Source<http://www.prisonplanet.com/medical-excise-tax-on-retail-receipts-show-how-were-screwed-by-obamacare.html>
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Now please hold on and bear with me before you say "OH, another Alex Jones article!" because I did some research and found directly from the IRS's website information that PROVES this to be true and an accurate portrayal of something hidden in Obamacare that I was not aware of!

Now being skeptical of this I went to the IRS website and found this!
Q1. What is the medical device excise tax?

A1. Section 4191 of the Internal Revenue Code imposes an excise tax on the sale of certain medical devices by the manufacturer or importer of the device.

Q2. When does the tax go into effect?

A2. The tax applies to sales of taxable medical devices after Dec. 31, 2012.

Q3. How much is the tax?

A3. The tax is 2.3 percent of the sale price of the taxable medical device. See Chapter 5 of IRS Publication 510, Excise Taxes, and Notice 2012-77 for additional information on the determination of sale price.
IRS.gov<http://www.irs.gov/uac/Medical-Device-Excise-Tax:-Frequently-Asked-Questions>

So being more curious I clicked on "Chapter 5 of IRS Publication 510" And WALLAH! What do I find under "MEDICAL DEVICES" under "MANUFACTURERS TAXES"?
Manufacturers Taxes
The following discussion of manufacturers taxes applies to the tax on:
Sport fishing equipment;
Fishing rods and fishing poles;
Electric outboard motors;
Fishing tackle boxes;
Bows, quivers, broadheads, and points;
Arrow shafts;
Coal;
Taxable tires;
Gas guzzler automobiles; and
Vaccines.
IRS.gov<http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p510.pdf>

I think we have definitely been fooled, if we believe that the Affordable Care Act is all about health care. It truly does appear to be nothing more than a bill laden with a whole lot of taxes that we the people have yet to be aware of!

Thanks Cabelas for letting the cat out of the bag!!!!     :smiley-patriotic-flagwaver-an
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Spring_Woods

The liberals thought it was going to be free healthcare. I wonder how they feel now?

They probably want to tell Obama how he hurt their feelings.
"Was that a gobble?":gobble:

Byhalia

I have heard this is not true !   

Can anyone prove this wrong ????

I read the above and looked it up.....I saw it....but is there doubt
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Byhalia

Check out the IRS form. http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f720.pdf

maybe this was bad information !!!

my apologies if it is.
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Byhalia

Section 4191 of the Internal Revenue Code imposes an excise tax on the sale of certain medical devices by the manufacturer or importer of the device.

That's the very first response from the IRS to the question about the tax. Based on that definition, it would seem that the mandated 2.3% tax should be charged to the manufacturer or importer and not the consumer. The IRS clearly states responsibility to pay the tax points to the maker and importer, but the word "generally" in their answer leaves wiggle room:

Generally, the manufacturer or importer of a taxable medical device is responsible for filing Form 720, Quarterly Federal Excise Tax Return, and paying the tax to the IRS.

Some tax experts say that adding the word "generally" may allow for the manufacturers and importers to pass that same 2.3% tax on to consumers through elevated prices at the retail level. At least one source at a major American manufacturer — who asked to remain anonymous because they're not authorized to speak publicly on the matter — said the company will be forced to increase prices.

"If our profit margin is 4%, and we're hit with an added 2.3% charge by this tax, more than half of our profit is instantly gone," the company source said.

Looking deeper into the IRS clarification on this, we wondered what qualifies as a "medical device?" The IRS has guidance on that topic — sort of. Here's the slightly confusing answer to the question, What is a taxable medical device?

In general, a taxable medical device is a device that is listed as a device with the Food and Drug Administration under section 510(j) of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic Act and 21 CFR part 807, unless the device falls within an exemption from the tax, such as the retail exemption.

Section 501 is a 23 page document filled with language that would confuse most folks, but then again, it allegedly applies only to commercial sales and importation of medical devices. The aforementioned "retail exemption" is a bit easier to grasp. Clarification on this issue is courtesy of the legal eagles at JDsupra.com:

There are two main categories of devices exempt from the tax. First, eyeglasses, contact lenses and hearing aids are specifically listed as being exempt.  The second and broader category, commonly referred to as the "Retail Exception," exempts a device which is "of a type which is generally purchased by the general public at retail for individual use."

At the end of the day, the Medical Device Excise Tax was supposed to generate an additional $29 billion to help pay for Obamacare. During the deliberations of the 2009 law, the bill's authors envisioned the $29 billion coming from "big companies" who made or imported the devices. More than one of the medical device manufacturers say that their operating profit margins are so thin, that they have no choice but to pass the cost on to consumers.

It appears that much of the $29 billion will be coming from the pockets of consumers
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ctwny1

Yea it's a hoax...but Obonehead is still a A** in capital letters.

longspur

If it is true it would be very insignificant compaired to other stuff hidden in there. Mark Levin was saying last night that there is a panel, I forget how many people, that will SPEAK laws for doctors. Yes thats right,when they say it, it is law. No future congress can repeal or change it except within a small window, I think in 2017, and it takes a super majority. I have no documents for reference its just what I heard on Mark Levin.

Turkey Trot

Quote from: longspur on February 20, 2013, 03:23:08 PM
If it is true it would be very insignificant compaired to other stuff hidden in there. Mark Levin was saying last night that there is a panel, I forget how many people, that will SPEAK laws for doctors. Yes thats right,when they say it, it is law. No future congress can repeal or change it except within a small window, I think in 2017, and it takes a super majority. I have no documents for reference its just what I heard on Mark Levin.

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Muzzy61

I work in the medical device industry.  We manufacture orthopedic implants. The medical device tax is hitting us hard.  Based on projected sales this year we will pay 4.7 million extra in tax. We are moving part of business over seas as a result. We have a hiring freeze. And like most business we will pass most of this tax on to the customer as a price increase.  There's you free health care.
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