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what about a 1 5/8oz #4 pattern?

Started by antitactical, January 09, 2013, 10:00:53 PM

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antitactical

Hey everyone! I've got an old Browning A5 mag that I recently bought a 32" invector plus barrel for. I've been playing with some reloads (I know the handloading section is gone so I'm not giving any info). I am getting an avg. of 90 pellets in a 10" circle @ 40 yds with copper coated lead #4s out of my Indian creek choke. There is roughly 219 pellets in 1 5/8oz so I guess I'm doing ok. I am new to this forum and I've grown up with the old school #4 and #2s are what you need but I am really excited to try some of the HTL #7s. I know 32" is a longer than most but I've always loved a long barreled gun (I guess old turkey shooting habits ). Im just checking to see if I am on the right track. Thanks.

surehuntsalot

I started out 30+ years ago shooting #4's in a 30" full choke Remington 1100,that thing would sure talk to a turkey.
I still have it and still shoot #4's through it.

you are on the right track,as far as I'm concerned
it's not the harvest,it's the chase

savduck

Im an old school #4 lead hunter that never heard anything about this 100 in the 10 ring (course Im obessed with it now). I think you have an excellent lead pattern that will WRECK a gobbler. Lead fours are mean mothers. I like the longer guns too.


Georgia Boy

allaboutshooting

Quote from: antitactical on January 09, 2013, 10:00:53 PM
Hey everyone! I've got an old Browning A5 mag that I recently bought a 32" invector plus barrel for. I've been playing with some reloads (I know the handloading section is gone so I'm not giving any info). I am getting an avg. of 90 pellets in a 10" circle @ 40 yds with copper coated lead #4s out of my Indian creek choke. There is roughly 219 pellets in 1 5/8oz so I guess I'm doing ok. I am new to this forum and I've grown up with the old school #4 and #2s are what you need but I am really excited to try some of the HTL #7s. I know 32" is a longer than most but I've always loved a long barreled gun (I guess old turkey shooting habits ). Im just checking to see if I am on the right track. Thanks.

30+ years ago I shot #4 shot for turkeys. Back then I did not know anyone who patterned a gun. Most of us just went out and hunted. I shot a number of birds and did not think much about it until I became more interested in what was actually going on when we pulled trigger.

As far as I could determine, I was the first person in our part of the world to shoot some perfectly good shells at large pieces of paper. The results were eye-opening. I saw large gaps and holes in my patterns, some plenty large enough for a turkey to escape but more alarming was the fact that I could have easily hit a bird but not immediately killed him. That meant that he might die several days later from a wound that I'd inflicted.

It turned out that was not just theory. I started to go out days after the season and found what was left of birds that hunters in our group were certain they'd hit but could not find them. Coyotes or some other predator had sometimes pretty much destroyed them but it became apparent that we needed to do better.

Many of us started to pattern our guns and that led to most of us using smaller shot like #6 or #5. We "wasted" a lot of shells in the off season but we noticed that our percentage of shots fired vs. turkeys picked-up greatly improved.

It was kind of a small movement in the grand scheme of things but you won't find many turkey hunters in south and south central Illinois shooting shot larger than #5 these days.

Now, I'm not saying that you can't kill turkey with #4 shot. Many of us, and I'm one of those, killed a bunch with them. The percentages just go way up with #6 or #5 shot, whether it's lead or tungsten-based shot like Hevi-Shot.

It's really all about the energy transferred to the target, the turkey's head/neck area and a swarm of #5 or #6 shot is more likely to do that than a few #4 shot.

By the way, I really agree with you on those long-barrelled guns.

Thanks,
Clark
"If he's out of range, it just means he has another day and so do you."


The Cohutta Strutter

Long live the A5...with that long barrel and the right load, them turkeys in trouble. :OGturkeyhead:
Anybody seen America lately?

Thomas6689

sounds like a pretty good pattern for 4's

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antitactical

Thanks for the info. I am just getting serious about turkey hunting and I am a tinkerer. I've got to mess with everything I shoot. I haven't bought a factory shell except rimfire for a loooong time. This place is a wealth of knowledge.

3" 870 Shell Shucker

90 #4's in 10" is a thumper of a pattern for anything smaller than a Deer.  Take that thing predator hunting.  Outstanding # from a 2.75" shell.