I use to shoot lead 6's. Killed one at 47yds with them. But the shot didn't go all the way through the head and neck like the Hevi-13 #7' do. Like I said I smoked one standing at 45yds plus with the Hevi-13 3" #7 loads. If you pattern your gun to obtain your best pattern at 40yds with this load and have say 250 hits in a 10" and another 200 or so in the 20" you'll toast any gobbler that walks easily at 45yds. And again if you don't, you probably just simply missed. Too many people on here are talking like these 7's are skeptical on turkeys. Im here to tell you they are probably one of the best shot choices you can shoot period.