Thanks for the replies guys. Seems like the Hevi loads are the key, they tend to pattern good in several different chokes. Again read a ton of reviews of people using the Jellyhead, IC, Carlson's and Hevi chokes. Kind of thinking about saving $30-40 on a choke, if the loads are gonna pattern really well with the other chokes and use that $$ to buy more ammo! Hoping for good results with 28" barrel, 3" shells.