I have to try about everything that comes out so the Hornady was no exception. On the box it says works best with modified or improved chokes so that is what I tried first. Out of teh BPS at 35 yards I wouldn't even try a turkey. I got the 835 out with the star dot. 35 yards would be the limit. Does anyone know what gun these are intended for? The load is a 3" 11/2OZ #5. reflex264