Did You Know This??? About Herman Cane...

[lightsoutcalls]

I don't want them to have more tools.  What really matters more than taxation method is how big govt is going to be and how much we are going to spend.

I agree with what you said.  This is why I believe his plan will need some tweaking.  I definitely agree on the statements above.  Government neccesarily needs to shrink in overall size.  The rub to some with that is that it will mean a reduction in jobs.  (Can't you just hear it now?)  Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe Cain has commented along those same lines about the size of government. 

The argument you make about corporations adjusting the price of goods and services according to THEIR cost to provide them is something that seems to elude many liberals both in and out of the media.  The government puts countless regulations on companies, which equates to additional costs to those companies to produce a good or service.  Those costs are passed along to the consumer. 

It is also my understanding that Cain's plan would do away with income taxes that are currently taken out of your check before you receive it.  This would be another "offset" to the national sales tax.  You would have more money in your pocket before you ever started to spend it.   I look forward to hearing more about it myself.

[Struttinhusker]

Trump, Bachmann, Perry, and now Cain - who will be the next UnRomney?

[lightsoutcalls]

Romney would be about as good a choice as John McCain.  I voted for him only because he wasn't obama.  That is the only way I could vote for Romney... the father of obamacare.  Check out youtube for a debate between Romney and Teddy Kennedy.  It's hard to tell who was the most liberal in their debate.  He's a "flip-flopper" in the truest sense of the word.  Check out his history on abortion...

[Struttinhusker]

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/13/cold-pizza-from-herm-cain/?nl=todayshea

Those of you that are still a little objective or independent - is this what you really want?  It also describes the hilarious predicament Tea Party Republicans find themselves in.

[HogBiologist]

Read the article.  First I can definately tell it was written by a biased liberal (NYT). secondly they are trying to push everyone to Romney.  The liberals know that conservatives cant really get behind Mitt (RINO) Romney.  I for one would have to hold my nose to vote for romney.  Anyone is better than Obama, but out of the candidiates battling to run against Obama, Cain is the best.

[Struttinhusker]

When you can't attack the opposing points that were made, attack the writer or attack the newspaper.  Works every time.

[HogBiologist]

I am not attacking the writer.  It is a well know FACT that the NYT is a liberal Biased paper.  The articlre was an obvious attack on Cain.  THere was an obvious bias against anything republican.  I could sit and debate the issues, but dont feel like writing that much. And in what way did I attack the writer?  I said I could tell it was written by a liberal (all liberals are biased toward conservatives and vice versa).  I said nothing about the writer.  I paraphrased the writers comment about how Repubs should abandon cain for Romney since he was what the writer felt was the Better Rep. Candidate.  THe liberals would love to have Romney run against Obama just like they pushed McCain.  They know he would not be as strong a candidate as Cain.  THe liberal media is again trying to sway voters to pick a candidate they feel would lose to Obama.  Of course fellow rival candidates are bashing Cains 999 plan.  The comment by Bachman was totally uncalled for.  Saying the 999 was an upside down 666 is purely confrontational.  Cain is still the most conservative of those running against Obama.  So Struttinhusker, Please read my comments fully before you accuse me of something. 

[Struttinhusker]

Maybe attack was a little strong.  Maybe I should have said it is easier to respond to the writer or the newspaper than it is to the points made in the column. 

[HogBiologist]

The writer had no valid points.  All he did was criticize Cain and his plan.  He elluded to the decrease in High income taxes and pointed out how those who dont pay taxes will now have to pay something.  Beyond that he just regurgitated talking points that have been hashed and rehashed. 

[Turkey Trot]

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/10/13/cold-pizza-from-herm-cain/?nl=todayshea

Those of you that are still a little objective or independent - is this what you really want?  It also describes the hilarious predicament Tea Party Republicans find themselves in.

You act like you are posting something profound and are ahead of everyone else on this.  But you clearly have not given a moment's thought to the capitalization of income taxes in prices any more than the libtard know-it-all at the NY Times.

They reading the points about capitalized taxes in my post.  If the 30-35% income tax is eliminated and replaces with 9 % and the 9% is on top of that, doesn't that add up to less taxation and a lower price on a given item?

The question is whether prices will fall in lockstep with the reduction of the income tax.  That is uncharted territory, but knowing that products face the consumption tax and the state sales tax, manufacturers, distributors, and retailers will face pressure from decreased quantity demanded.

I personally am not in favor of opening the door for the feds to tax in a new domain that traditionally belonged to the states and the locals.

I'd rather see someone talking about cutting the size of govt by 25-33% over 8 years and impose a lifetime limit on poverty entitlements to provide relief for the federal treasury and the state treasury.  I'd also prefer to see a flat income tax of 20% that applies to everyone across the board.  No one would be permitted to take the benefit of being a citizen while shirking the burden or letting others carry a disproportionate burden; if you want to be equal you have to be equal in all respects.  In light of the recent historical trend of tax receipts being around 19% of GDP, a rate of 20 would be more than enough to cover what we really need in federal govt and work on debt reduction.  Moreover, it would free up all the resources currently expended on tax planning, avoidance, compliance, etc.

http://www.heritage.org/budgetchartbook/current-tax-receipts

We have to deal with the great ponzi scheme of SS and Medicare, as well ad medicaid.  They are dwarfing everything else in scope.

[Struttinhusker]

We'll just have to see how far Cain goes with his 9-9-9.  If I had to bet my farm, I would say he'll end up like the other UnRomneys.  But who knows?

[Crutch]

If I had to bet the farm, I would be glad to loose it to someone that is going to make the free loaders pay something than give it to Romney-------the originator of Obama Care.  I can't imagine 4 more years of what we alreay have.

If you believe the liberal bias, you will not realize that no matter how much they raise taxes on the rich, fed income never goes up. The rich just avoid paying by sheltering their money. If all the loop holes in the tax code are gone, then everyone pays.  The NYT liberal failed to mention that.

If wealthy people could then make as much money as they wanted, then people would go from making 1 million a year to 10 million because
they know they will get to keep what they earn and be glad to pay their fair share rather than an unfair share like Dems want now and like they have paid in the past.  I heard Regan only made 1 movie a yearat a certian point because if he made the second one, the tax bracket took most of it all. Half of nothing is still less than 9% of an infinite amount a person can earn.

This is all just my opinion.

[3" 870 Shell Shucker]

I'd vote for him.  He's everything that Obama isn't, aside from skin color.

[Dylan T]

Of course fellow rival candidates are bashing Cains 999 plan.  The comment by Bachman was totally uncalled for.  Saying the 999 was an upside down 666 is purely confrontational.  

That Bachmann comment just demonstrated how unsuitable she is for office. She says she's anti-government but been living off the givernment for half her life.

I like Herman Cain. Not all his policies but he's got passion and wants to get stuff done. He's not blinded by wacko ideas and negativity like Bachmann.

[bird]

Of course fellow rival candidates are bashing Cains 999 plan.  The comment by Bachman was totally uncalled for.  Saying the 999 was an upside down 666 is purely confrontational.  

That Bachmann comment just demonstrated how unsuitable she is for office. She says she's anti-government but been living off the givernment for half her life.

I like Herman Cain. Not all his policies but he's got passion and wants to get stuff done. He's not blinded by wacko ideas and negativity like Bachmann.

I will have to agree with you Dylan.... Bachmann turned me off with her comments of referring 999 to 666.  Totally uncalled for and unprofessional. 

As of right now I can see a Cain/Ryan ticket winning the White House and a Republican controlled House and Senate.  9-9-9 or a variation of it just may very well become a reality in the next 5 years.  I welcome new ideas and changes to the way Government is ran in our country.  Everything has gotten way to complicated and difficult to understand with all the laws and regulations governing everything we do.  We need less government and a more simplified way of living our lives without Big Government hanging over our shoulders and Socialism which is the way the Dems would prefer to ram down our throats is not the way I will live my life.  I would rather die a free man than live under the heavy hand of the socialist left.

bird