Kick stand vests,,the kick stand part, experiences???

[Happy hooker]

First off I know all about turkey chairs, alps,gobbler etc I've owned them. they are very comfortable I've taken naps in them, brought them to outdoor concerts.
But,,,,
They are heavy, bulky,you have to sling them over one shoulder then you have your gun sling on the other shoulder and if you use like a Glenda green satchel that gets sling too.
The chairs are great,,not good for run and gun.
The kickstand idea I like
If it works??
For those who have or used them
Do the legs hold in place on the ground or do they tend to slide.
Are you at a comfortable angle not too high or low.
Overall comfort.
Do you balance well in them or do you feel like you will tip over if you don't stay perfectly still.
Please give me you personal experience.
Thank you

[runngun]

I can't hunt without either a chair or one of my kickstand style vest.  2 neck surgeries and 2 low back surgeries have about ruirnt me.
I have not had any issues or breaking in mine. I have one of the first one's that they made Tactical Tat'R. I guess it would be the "1". Only issue I have is being left handed my brain works in reverse and I am always screwing the legs the wrong way.
That being said I really like the adjustability of these. A sure favorite.  I also have a couple of vest that have the built-in seat. They're good to go to, easy to adjust to lean back or up. And I really like that I can pretty much set down anywhere.

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[falconiii]

I've never been able to figure out when I would use a kickstand. Have been burned too many times not using a big enough tree as a background. Have been caught without a good tree many times, but my first priority is to get back to one of those as soon as I can.  Welcome any thoughts on this.

[Big10Hammer]

I have a Tidewe kickstand vest.  It's good quality, but heavy.  I like the concept of the kickstand seat, but the legs are nowhere long enough for me.  If they'd make them at least 6" longer, it'd be really nice.

[Joneshunter]

I have an alps grand slam vest and I will say with the legs that thing is real handy pretty dang comfortable too. I wouldn't say it's too heavy. I used to carry a seat with me and that was heavier

[compton30]

I thought the kick stand on the Alps vest functioned well for it's intended purpose of being used as a support when it was otherwise unavailable from a tree, etc. However, the main reason I took it out was because I hated how it felt when I was actually sitting up against a tree. That part never felt comfortable so I took it out, but would've kept it in otherwise.

[Tail Feathers]

Tactical Tater II vest.  The stand kept banging against my gun when walking.  Used it once and took it out.  Love the vest, not the stand. 

[KYTurkey07]

I've got a tactical tater 2 without the kickstand. It just has the cushion. I like it a lot but was always curious if I would have liked the kickstand one better.

[Garrett Trentham]

I've got the ALPS vest with the kickstand. I leave the kickstand frame out for most all of the season, but it is handy to throw back in when hunting open areas or around cedars that aren't conducive to sitting against.

I carried my lounger chair around one day this spring and questioned my sanity.

[NCspurs22]

If you are more the run n' gun style these are just not an optimal choice in my opinion. Very bulky and heavy! I would rather carry a turkey chair than wear the kickstand vest!

[Upfold99]

I liked the idea and sat in my alps on the show floor several years ago at the convention.  Seemed like a great idea in person.  Used it a few times in the woods and decided it wasn't for me.  Took it out and haven't looked back.  After I filled the vest, it was heavier than I liked.  Also limited my ability to move as the gobbler approached.

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