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Started by PalmettoRon, June 03, 2023, 07:32:29 PM
Quote from: Kyle_Ott on June 04, 2023, 01:03:21 PMIt has become extremely easy to harvest a turkey.On-x allows us to predict where they will roost and allows us to move in on them with precision when the hunt is taking place.Blinds and decoys allow hunters to hunt them in virtually any location.TSS allows hunters to shoot them farther than ever.Fanning and reaping allows children and supposed adult turkey hunters to simply put a fan in front of their face and harvest gobblers at mere feet.I am so damn sick of hearing the "If it's legal, so be it" nonsense.At some point, we need to say enough is enough. This should be sporting. It should be fair to the turkeys. We should have their sustainability and interests at the forefront of our considerations instead of what new technological development will make it easier to kill one.Electronic or motorized anything should not even be a conversation.Learn how to kill a damn turkey or gtfo of the damn woods.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on June 03, 2023, 07:56:54 PMMakes me want to puke.
Quote from: GobbleNut on June 03, 2023, 08:43:31 PMI know nothing about electronic callers, but I can't imagine how using one of them would give someone an advantage in calling turkeys.
Quote from: Marc on June 05, 2023, 10:33:21 AMQuote from: GobbleNut on June 03, 2023, 08:43:31 PMI know nothing about electronic callers, but I can't imagine how using one of them would give someone an advantage in calling turkeys. You are using recorded live turkey calls... Stick one under a decoy... Use your phone to decide what calls and when to play them... Cutting, yelping, and many of those subtle chirps and sounds that are difficult to make... Any sound that a turkey makes, you have access to with a touch of a button on your phone... And it will sound like it is coming from your decoy. Hen, jake, or tom...It is a short-cut to killing a bird, and bypasses the learning curve of learning about turkey sounds and how to make them. You get a device with a list of sounds, and what they are, and all you have to do to replicate them perfectly, is press a button.To me... This is an example of people wanting to kill a turkey rather than hunt them. It is NOT fair chase.This is a perfect example of the argument AGAINST, "if it is legal it is OK."This is a great example of where hunters should be the stewards of our sport, and the game we hunt. Actual hunters should be openly and vocally opposed to allowing such devices to be used. Actual hunters SHOULD NOT STAND FOR THIS.
Quote from: Prospector on June 04, 2023, 07:48:29 PM Quote from: Kyle_Ott on June 04, 2023, 01:03:21 PMIt has become extremely easy to harvest a turkey.On-x allows us to predict where they will roost and allows us to move in on them with precision when the hunt is taking place.Blinds and decoys allow hunters to hunt them in virtually any location.TSS allows hunters to shoot them farther than ever.Fanning and reaping allows children and supposed adult turkey hunters to simply put a fan in front of their face and harvest gobblers at mere feet.I am so damn sick of hearing the "If it's legal, so be it" nonsense.At some point, we need to say enough is enough. This should be sporting. It should be fair to the turkeys. We should have their sustainability and interests at the forefront of our considerations instead of what new technological development will make it easier to kill one.Electronic or motorized anything should not even be a conversation.Learn how to kill a damn turkey or gtfo of the damn woods. This is so true. Just what I've been saying. Glad to know at least a few felt this way. Was beginning to think I was all alone ( and I didn't really care, lol). Preach on- I will listen
Quote from: GobbleNut on June 05, 2023, 02:12:26 PMQuote from: Marc on June 05, 2023, 10:33:21 AMQuote from: GobbleNut on June 03, 2023, 08:43:31 PMI know nothing about electronic callers, but I can't imagine how using one of them would give someone an advantage in calling turkeys. You are using recorded live turkey calls... Stick one under a decoy... Use your phone to decide what calls and when to play them... Cutting, yelping, and many of those subtle chirps and sounds that are difficult to make... Any sound that a turkey makes, you have access to with a touch of a button on your phone... And it will sound like it is coming from your decoy. Hen, jake, or tom...It is a short-cut to killing a bird, and bypasses the learning curve of learning about turkey sounds and how to make them. You get a device with a list of sounds, and what they are, and all you have to do to replicate them perfectly, is press a button.To me... This is an example of people wanting to kill a turkey rather than hunt them. It is NOT fair chase.This is a perfect example of the argument AGAINST, "if it is legal it is OK."This is a great example of where hunters should be the stewards of our sport, and the game we hunt. Actual hunters should be openly and vocally opposed to allowing such devices to be used. Actual hunters SHOULD NOT STAND FOR THIS.Good explanation of the possible expansion of the use of electronic callers, Marc. Under the circumstances you describe, that would definitely be a "bridge too far" in their use. When contemplating the use of e-callers, I was thinking of some guy holding a device in his hand and using it to imitate turkey calls basically as a substitute for a "regular" turkey call. I have only seen one e-caller in my life, and it was a device which had several buttons on it with the different sounds a turkey might make. Those sounds were repetitive (same yelp sequence sounding like it was coming from a 1950's transistor radio), and I could/can not imagine anybody thinking that would be preferrable to just learning how to use any one of the manually-operated tools that are at our disposal nowadays. Like others have stated, I am in complete agreement that electronic callers should not be legal anywhere,...and especially if the possible scenario you describe was implemented by someone, assuming that kind of technology is actually available (or being contemplated). Again, though, there are quite a few other tactics used by turkey hunters that I think fall into a similar category.