Amazon must really love this customer, I send more stuff back. Most of the time it just does not fit. Just got my gaiters this afternoon Kenetrek brushed camo. Light and quiet. Went by what they recommended 11.5 boot buy a large is what I was told. Pulled calf strap in all the way they were so bunched up and just plain uncomfortable. Season opens next week so I guess it`s rubber boots again. Very hard to buy anything local anymore. I guess Amazon is the new catalog era.