i've brought 3 daughters thru trials and tribulations of turkey hunting. oldest is now 24 and youngest is 12. they all started hunting with me around age of 8 or 9. they've been thru 410,20 gauges, pumps, single shots. finally submitted to gas 20ga after many years of watching daughters getting hammered by recoil. best choice i ever made . no more flinching, shutting eyes, complaining and missed shots.