Its not youtube, social media, forums

[arkrem870]

To think YouTube hunting channels haven't increase the amount of hunters traveling to public lands.....adding more pressure and increased regulation / loss of hunting opportunity in many states is pure idiocy. People on this very board are calling for specific non resident regulations. And /or a national bag limit. 

Loose lips sink ships. It was true in 1941. It's true today.

[Howie g]

To think YouTube hunting channels haven't increase the amount of hunters traveling to public lands.....adding more pressure and increased regulation / loss of hunting opportunity in many states is pure idiocy. People on this very board are calling for specific non resident regulations. And /or a national bag limit. 

Loose lips sink ships. It was true in 1941. It's true today.

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[FLGobstopper]

For all the whining the residents do the Florida draw system for most of the public land is the only way to go.

[dzsmith]

As someone who YouTubes heavily and has their own social media brand, I can tell you that's NOT the problem.

I would be doing the exact same thing I am now even if I didn't have the channel, and more birds are killed by non social media followers than any guy with a camera in the woods. To think the hunting now sucks because of that is incorrect.


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you missed the point entirely by being triggered because your are a YouTube user....

[dzsmith]

Turkey hunters have become very mobile and willing to travel to new areas to hunt good spots.

Has anyone seen good data for the % of turkeys in each state (or at least some popular states) harvested by residents vs. non-residents?

i.e. if 20,000 turkeys were harvested in a given state in a given year, how many of them were by non-residents?

I have not but it's almost a non-starter to take non-resident numbers into account on total state harvest IMO. Mostly because there's a lot more private land to disperse the added pressure AND because a lot of non residents are going to public land anyway. I think the real issue with out of state hunters is going to come from the effect on the public land in that area... What's that ratio look like?  In a lot of these states, the public land is so limited, relative to private, that it doesn't take a ton of extra hunters to make a big dent.

yeah... we are concerned about public land numbers specifically , and yes this is what the bulk of the topic revolves around . In many south eastern states we aren't slap full of outfits.... That's not a thing here. Many but not all. Finding private land to hunt with a surviving turkey population is getting harder and harder to do . Clubs aren't taking members for turkey .... The ones that do are starting to put limitations on it because they have to ..... it's becoming common. Most clubs in my area are sub 2000 acres . Generally around 1000 to 1200 and 75% is clear cut or in some form of rotated cutting meaning you have just a couple hundred acres of turkey woods and not enough to turkeys to have 10 or 12 people hunting them. Very very few clubs are thousands of acres , and even those still only have 1-2k acres of turkey habitat . The average person doesn't own tons of land to turkey hunt on or even know anyone who does these days so for the sake of having multiple birds to hunt on your own terms , public is where many of us turn to . You can simply keep moving when there's no birds... if your in a 1200 acre hunting club that only has 200 acres of standing timber .... And there happens to be no birds ... your out of luck. When your have a multi thousand acre wma or 100k acre national Forrest you have room to eventually find a turkey . Who even knows willing land owners or is a member of enough leases and clubs to have 10s of thousands of acres to hunt all to just kill a couple of turkeys ? Very few .... This isn't the case in many states obviously and many places still have dense enough turkey population to hunt small tracks and have many birds to fool with . But most do not..... any means necessary to help maintain our public is serious business . My area is pounded by non res and res from daylight to dark the entire 6 weeks of turkey season. Most of your non res is going to hunt public .... There ain't no such thing as door knocking ... that's long long long gone . So yeah.... We are concerned with the public even if it only makes up a small portion of the state because a very high percentage of our licensed resident hunters are absolutely hunting public because of the issues I've described .

[ybuck]

To think YouTube hunting channels haven't increase the amount of hunters traveling to public lands.....adding more pressure and increased regulation / loss of hunting opportunity in many states is pure idiocy. People on this very board are calling for specific non resident regulations. And /or a national bag limit. 

Loose lips sink ships. It was true in 1941. It's true today.

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[idratherb]