NYS Proposed lead ammo ban

[Old Timer]

Assembly Bill A5728. This lead ban forbids the used of any ammo with more than 1% lead on all state lands plus NYC water sheds. It has passed in the Assembly and is thought to also pass in the Senate. If signed into law it will take effect in 2023 with no grandfather clause. Were in a race with California.

[Sir-diealot]

Now I see what you were talking about. Where do I go to voice opposition on this one?

[Old Timer]

Our State Senators. The rumor mill believes this will go through. It`s bad timing under the ammo shortage already upon us. But this does not concern the liberal progressive politician. It`s disguised as a bill to protect the environment. In reality it`s an assault on our 2nd Amendment. Good article on this in latest addition of New York Outdoor News.

[Sir-diealot]

Our State Senators. The rumor mill believes this will go through. It`s bad timing under the ammo shortage already upon us. But this does not concern the liberal progressive politician. It`s disguised as a bill to protect the environment. In reality it`s an assault on our 2nd Amendment. Good article on this in latest addition of New York Outdoor News.

It is their intent to make it harder on us, this is clearly by design. I love this state, it is so beautiful in so many areas but our politicians are horrible. I will not obey this law.

[the Ward]

Man i feel for you NY guys, that is some ridiculous stuff. Hopefully you can put a stop to this.
It is nothing but gun control under the guise of "enviromentalism"

[PNWturkey]

IMO, it is just a matter of time before lead ammo is banned in many states for all types of hunting.

Might want to start thinking about switching to alternatives to lead for turkey, deer, etc.

Waterfowl hunters were initially opposed the switch to lead years ago, but now most are onboard.  Same will eventually be true of other hunting groups IMHO...

[silvestris]

Only if you have money to burn.  Just another of many valid reasons to stay out of the Nanny State.

[the Ward]

IMO, it is just a matter of time before lead ammo is banned in many states for all types of hunting.

Might want to start thinking about switching to alternatives to lead for turkey, deer, etc.

Waterfowl hunters were initially opposed the switch to lead years ago, but now most are onboard.  Same will eventually be true of other hunting groups IMHO...

Most waterfowlers are definitely not on board, thus the rise and profileration of steel shot substitutes.
That was forced on the waterfowlers by what we now call"junk science" There is zero reason to ban lead for hunting purposes, it is just another lie by so called "environmentalists" to curtail hunting and shooting. Non-toxic shot is many times more expensive than lead, and will become more so in the future.

[mikejd]

Smart state. They have about 6 conservation officers and they want to make more stupid laws. I can go out daily
and see guys taking endless short fish and no one to enforce. We have a no baiting or feeding law.
yet you can walk into any store and buy all the bait you want and put it out with no one ever around to enforce.
Whats there plan to enforce this one.

[Old Timer]

Smart state. They have about 6 conservation officers and they want to make more stupid laws. I can go out daily
and see guys taking endless short fish and no one to enforce. We have a no baiting or feeding law.
yet you can walk into any store and buy all the bait you want and put it out with no one ever around to enforce.
Whats there plan to enforce this one.

There isn't one. This State loves to make laws  then rail on and destroy law enforcement. Pray for our 1st responders here their under a lot of pressure.

[PNWturkey]

Most waterfowlers are definitely not on board, thus the rise and profileration of steel shot substitutes.

Most waterfowl hunters I know would not hunt with lead.  YMMV...

[PNWturkey]

Only if you have money to burn.  Just another of many valid reasons to stay out of the Nanny State.

I'm not a fan of the nanny state either, just saying that I think the writing is on the wall for lead shot, regardless of how anyone on this forum feels about it.

Lead in soil/water, lead in condors/eagles eating deer/turkey carcasses, lead consumption by humans eating wild game - lots of reasons that this issue isn't going away in the future...

[GobbleNut]

...the writing is on the wall for lead shot, regardless of how anyone on this forum feels about it.
Lead in soil/water, lead in condors/eagles eating deer/turkey carcasses, lead consumption by humans eating wild game - lots of reasons that this issue isn't going away in the future...

This...  ^^^

[Gooserbat]

...the writing is on the wall for lead shot, regardless of how anyone on this forum feels about it.
Lead in soil/water, lead in condors/eagles eating deer/turkey carcasses, lead consumption by humans eating wild game - lots of reasons that this issue isn't going away in the future...

This...  ^^^

Especially in liberal controlled states

[Hobbes]

I'm not for it, but it'll happen in every state eventually. 

Explain the "junk science" comment, please.  I'm not saying that you are wrong, but I would want to see information/studies/data that back that up.