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Leg Gaiters and ticks

Started by btomlin, April 08, 2022, 08:46:02 AM

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btomlin

Do leg gaiters provide another layer of protection from ticks??  It seemed like the ticks only laughed at the permethrin mix I made last year.  I made it .0625 strength. I wasn't sure if guys had noticed if the "seal" around the boot helped keep them from going up your leg.  They were especially bad in S MO last Spring.  I got chewed up.  Just looking to improve protection.  Friend of mine got alpha-gal allergy a few years ago from a tick bite....don't want any part of that. 

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I wear gaiters and I also tuck the bottom of my cargo pants into the top of my boots to keep ticks out.

I treat my pants, my boots, and my gaiters with Sawyers every other week. I spray the inside and outside of the gaiters. I treat my hat, turkey vest and my 3d leafy pullover every other week. Haven't had any issues.
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Gaiters are not going to stop or reduce ticks I don't think. I did buy a pair of gaiters to use this year, but for keeping my legs dry, not tick prevention.
I'm not sure what .0625 concentration refers to, but .5% is the benchmark mix for clothing and it absolutely works when used properly.
You have to make sure you shake your bottle vigorously before you spray. The permethrin is suspended in the solution and can precipitate out and end up in a sludge in the bottom of the bottle. If you don't shake it up you're spraying mostly water.
Not shaken it will pour mostly clear. When shaken up it's a milky white in water based solutions.
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Quote from: Number17 on April 08, 2022, 09:36:39 AM
Gaiters are not going to stop or reduce ticks I don't think. I did buy a pair of gaiters to use this year, but for keeping my legs dry, not tick prevention.
I'm not sure what .0625 concentration refers to, but .5% is the benchmark mix for clothing and it absolutely works when used properly.
You have to make sure you shake your bottle vigorously before you spray. The permethrin is suspended in the solution and can precipitate out and end up in a sludge in the bottom of the bottle. If you don't shake it up you're spraying mostly water.
Not shaken it will pour mostly clear. When shaken up it's a milky white in water based solutions.

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BBR12

Yeah I believe they help. Keeping shirt tucked in also helps. I spray the crap out of my snake leggings with permethrin cause they don't have direct contact with my skin. I'm a little skittish on soaking down my clothes that are gonna be in contact with my body. May be fine but I'm not a big fan of insecticides where they can possibly be soaked into my skin once my clothes get wet with sweat or water.

TauntoHawk

They keep them on the outside of pants which makes them easier to see and pick off. You do have to be careful with the spray on DWR clothing I ruined a pair of gaiters with swayer as it eats away the DWR and now they get soaked out in wet grass.

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TRG3

While leg gaiters will help keep debris out of your boots, etc., they will only keep off ticks if sprayed with some permethrin mix as noted in the information at the very top of this forum. Please take some time to read the responses as they strongly support the need to spray all clothing, gear, etc. before heading to the woods or fields. I've been heavily spraying with 2 oz. of 10% permethrin/gallon of water, then letting dry, every two weeks for over 10 years with only a couple of ticks found on me during spring turkey hunting through late summer squirrel season into early fall bow hunting. Spraying with permethrin is the smartest and least expensive move one could make to ensure safety from tick borne diseases.

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Quote from: btomlin on April 08, 2022, 08:46:02 AM
Do leg gaiters provide another layer of protection from ticks??  It seemed like the ticks only laughed at the permethrin mix I made last year.  I made it .0625 strength. I wasn't sure if guys had noticed if the "seal" around the boot helped keep them from going up your leg.  They were especially bad in S MO last Spring.  I got chewed up.  Just looking to improve protection.  Friend of mine got alpha-gal allergy a few years ago from a tick bite....don't want any part of that.
Your mix is way to weak if you diluted to .0625.  The mix should equal .5 percent.  With 10% permethrin you would mix 1 ounce with 20 ounces of water and saturate all your clothes, gloves, facemasks, hat, vest heavily.  I hang mine on a clothes line and spray away and let dry.  I have seen ticks climb on my pants and start crawling, get drunk from the toxin and fall right off.  Sawyers has the exact same concentration .5%. 

btomlin

My thinker was off.  I mixed 1oz to 20 oz of water.  I just looked at my spray bottle.

Number17

Quote from: bbcoach on April 10, 2022, 03:48:39 PM

Your mix is way to weak if you diluted to .0625.  The mix should equal .5 percent.  With 10% permethrin you would mix 1 ounce with 20 ounces of water and saturate all your clothes, gloves, facemasks, hat, vest heavily.  I hang mine on a clothes line and spray away and let dry.  I have seen ticks climb on my pants and start crawling, get drunk from the toxin and fall right off.  Sawyers has the exact same concentration .5%.

This is why I questioned the number myself. .0625 is 6.25% which would be 12x stronger than needed.
Not that is matters one bit, but with 10% permethrin you want to mix it at a 19:1 ratio to yield a .5% solution.
20:1 mix yields a .48% solution.
I've actually found that a much weaker application is just as effective, especially if you're saturating your clothes. Two squirts of
.25% is just as effective as 1 squirt of .5% and would deliver exactly the same amount of permethrin to the fabric.




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Not rocket science guys. Did you take high school physics or chemistry? Remember whereas C1V1=C2V2. C=concentration, V=volume. Personally I use the 36.8% concentrate bought from Amazon and to spray (somewhat soak) all my clothes I mix 2 gallons for my garden sprayer. Thus C1=.368, C2 (desired concentrate)=.005 and V2=128 oz (2 gallons for my sprayer). Thus V1 (how much to use) solves to 1.7 oz. So I use 2 oz. for just a bit stronger.