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MeatEater SC Turkey episode

Started by ChesterCopperpot, February 23, 2022, 08:45:40 AM

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Quote from: Which Gun on February 24, 2022, 11:01:56 AM
This is what puts a spur under my saddle.  Who are y'all to decide what is right for someone else. If this is the case leave your trucks home they drink to much gas. You shouldn't be killing anything to begin with. You should turn in all your guns.  To many people out there already trying to decide what is right for me or the environment.

If you don't want to shoot jakes good for you. I've shot two in my turkey hunting career when I was starting out and I was tickled to death to do so. I'll probably never shoot another one but if I do so be it.

If we're WORRYING what is right do away with all TSS AND LONGBEARDS for I have decided you shouldn't be shooting no turkey past 30 yards for it ain't RIGHT. See how this can go.

Don't decide for me what is right if it is legal. China hasn't taken over completely yet.

All you need to do is read post 1, last paragraph....We can only explain it to you, we can't help you understand it.

And I am not trying to stir the pot or get you hot. Just because it is legal, it might not be the best thing for the animal at that time.

AppalachianHollers

It was a good episode. Nothing fancy with Abernathy.

A burnt cork hickory striker, a box that sounded like it had been sanded a few times, a homemade decoy, and 2 3/4" shells. And a love for the birds and the land.

Reminded me of talking turkey with my wife's grandfather, who cut his teeth hunting Alabama turkeys in the 50s and 60s (he was also an adult onset turkey hunter). He went hunting with Mr. Lynch a few times.


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PharmHunter

Quote from: Which Gun on February 24, 2022, 11:01:56 AM
This is what puts a spur under my saddle.  Who are y'all to decide what is right for someone else. If this is the case leave your trucks home they drink to much gas. You shouldn't be killing anything to begin with. You should turn in all your guns.  To many people out there already trying to decide what is right for me or the environment.

If you don't want to shoot jakes good for you. I've shot two in my turkey hunting career when I was starting out and I was tickled to death to do so. I'll probably never shoot another one but if I do so be it.

If we're WORRYING what is right do away with all TSS AND LONGBEARDS for I have decided you shouldn't be shooting no turkey past 30 yards for it ain't RIGHT. See how this can go.

Don't decide for me what is right if it is legal. China hasn't taken over completely yet.

I'm not deciding anything for you or anyone else.  That's for you to decide.  I'm saying that I believe grown men shooting Jakes is ridiculous...sorry if that offends you but it's my opinion.  See how that works? 
To your other scenarios, I load and shoot TSS now because its the most lethal thing I can quickly and ethically kill a turkey with.  Oh and I try not shoot one past 30 yards, just like I have since I started hunting with the cheapest turkey shells I could find a long time ago.  Nothing has changed for me but again that's me.  Some may feel more comfortable taking longer shots.  Some may not be ethical, imo.
The difference between your post and mine is that you are telling someone what they should and shouldn't do, albeit just to be sarcastic.  I simply stated my opinion.
And politicians make game laws, not biologists unfortunately...So I'll say it again, just because something is Legal take doesn't make it right.  This can be applied to many things besides bearded turkeys.  Take a breath and pluck the spur out of your saddle.  It's almost turkey season. 

camotoe

I'm pretty sure Dr chamberlain was where I heard that from . That was the reason to push back then opener to let the top turkey do his thing . If he is knocked off then the hens do another round of seeing who they will breed with . Pushes the whole cycle back which leads to a higher mortality rate of the poults .


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AppalachianHollers

Quote from: camotoe on February 26, 2022, 06:49:26 PM
I'm pretty sure Dr chamberlain was where I heard that from . That was the reason to push back then opener to let the top turkey do his thing . If he is knocked off then the hens do another round of seeing who they will breed with . Pushes the whole cycle back which leads to a higher mortality rate of the poults .


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It's got to be the most controversial thing Dr. Chamberlain has said. Runs against the experience of a lot of turkey hunters who will forget more than 99% of us know about these birds.
I'd really like to see something more concrete than "look at how much smaller their 'nads are, haha" to establish that. Even if a jake's sperm count is lower than a mature Tom, it still could be plenty to get the job done.


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Pluffmud

After it's all said and done, it doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with how someone hunts or what they harvest, if it's legal, no wrong has been done and it's 100 percent personal preference, whether you or I like it or not. If SCDNR thinks that shooting jakes is detrimental, then they need to make it illegal. No matter what the regs say, I will never shoot a Jake. My reasons for not doing so are right in line with everyone else's reasons, but until we make the changes to the regs, no wrong has been done.
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30_06

I thought the show was well done. His show is one of the few that seems to provide quality content.

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Cowboy

If I an remembering correctly, Meateater is about EATING MEAT??? If its legal and he tags and eats it, I don't see a problem. Jake's are tasty too and Rinella is a great chef I believe. Lol. But personally however I dont shoot jakes myself but wont belittle anyone else who does.

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FLTurkHntr

That was a great episode. I enjoyed it.