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Quote from: g8rvet on March 29, 2021, 07:48:56 PMQuote from: owlhoot on March 29, 2021, 07:23:01 PMQuote from: g8rvet on March 24, 2021, 04:45:07 PMFauci, who has advised six presidents now on health issues and has more than 30 years of experience in infectious disease, said there's "no doubt in anyone's mind (the Trump administration) will be faced with the challenges that their predecessors were faced with."(my emphasis)https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/29/fact-check-2017-anthony-fauci-warned-potential-outbreak/5494601002/So, in reality, what he actually said is that there would be an outbreak of some infectious disease in Trump's presidency, like all his predecessors (Zika, SARS, H1N1, West Nile, etc etc), and what he was really doing is lobbying for more funding.Oh that guy. Who said no mask for months early last year and predicted up to 60k deaths. He kinda missed that one. Now back in the spotlight and circlebacking all over the news.Agree. He is a political opportunist and has delusions of grandeur. I was not espousing him as an expert, I was refuting the claim that he and Gates were on a video that predicted the corona outbreak. I think it is like Bigfoot, lots of people claim they saw it, but no one can show me any evidence of it. When I read that article, I was thinking he is like 90% of bureaucrats, just wants more money in his budget.
Quote from: owlhoot on March 29, 2021, 07:23:01 PMQuote from: g8rvet on March 24, 2021, 04:45:07 PMFauci, who has advised six presidents now on health issues and has more than 30 years of experience in infectious disease, said there's "no doubt in anyone's mind (the Trump administration) will be faced with the challenges that their predecessors were faced with."(my emphasis)https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/29/fact-check-2017-anthony-fauci-warned-potential-outbreak/5494601002/So, in reality, what he actually said is that there would be an outbreak of some infectious disease in Trump's presidency, like all his predecessors (Zika, SARS, H1N1, West Nile, etc etc), and what he was really doing is lobbying for more funding.Oh that guy. Who said no mask for months early last year and predicted up to 60k deaths. He kinda missed that one. Now back in the spotlight and circlebacking all over the news.
Quote from: g8rvet on March 24, 2021, 04:45:07 PMFauci, who has advised six presidents now on health issues and has more than 30 years of experience in infectious disease, said there's "no doubt in anyone's mind (the Trump administration) will be faced with the challenges that their predecessors were faced with."(my emphasis)https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/29/fact-check-2017-anthony-fauci-warned-potential-outbreak/5494601002/So, in reality, what he actually said is that there would be an outbreak of some infectious disease in Trump's presidency, like all his predecessors (Zika, SARS, H1N1, West Nile, etc etc), and what he was really doing is lobbying for more funding.
Quote from: BigSlam51 on March 28, 2021, 10:00:28 AMQuote from: snoodcrusher on March 28, 2021, 09:41:30 AMThis forum is overflowing with leftists, authoritarians, and sheep willing to submit to authority. It's nice to see that some are pointing this out and confronting these brain dead drones. As for the COVID vaccine and those who receive it, that's their right. Those who do not want the vaccine should have the right to reject it. Simple as that. No black lists, restrictions, or limitations for either group. To suggest anything to the contrary is a civil liberty infringement. Those who do not recognize it as such are dangerous, far more dangerous than a disease with a 99% survival rate. "The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.""Of all tyrannies, the tyranny exercised for the "good" of its victims may be the most oppressive."Sent from my iPad using TapatalkX2Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk
Quote from: snoodcrusher on March 28, 2021, 09:41:30 AMThis forum is overflowing with leftists, authoritarians, and sheep willing to submit to authority. It's nice to see that some are pointing this out and confronting these brain dead drones. As for the COVID vaccine and those who receive it, that's their right. Those who do not want the vaccine should have the right to reject it. Simple as that. No black lists, restrictions, or limitations for either group. To suggest anything to the contrary is a civil liberty infringement. Those who do not recognize it as such are dangerous, far more dangerous than a disease with a 99% survival rate. "The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.""Of all tyrannies, the tyranny exercised for the "good" of its victims may be the most oppressive."Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Quote from: g8rvet on March 30, 2021, 05:48:45 AMOkay, now the copy is missing? From the internet. Must be with the 9/11 evidence of a government conspiracy. If you have been exposed to someone with COVID you should not be allowed in to a hospital and should be quarantined. What those of us with health care and biology knowledge have said all along is that this should not be about anyone's "rights". It is about biology. If you are a disease vector, you should be isolated until safe. What do you do with a a dog with rabies, a cow with brucellosis, a horse with Swamp fever, etc etc. Sadly, if the entire world would have quarantined for 21 days, the entire world, this would have stopped as soon as it was recognized. It would have put the world back 3 weeks. Saved billions of dollars, changed political elections, etc. We should all let that sink in. But people are selfish and "have rights" and don't trust anyone to tell them what is good for them because "by God, no one can tell me what to do". All the preppers should have gone to bunker! You may be right about travel restrictions. One benefit is I may be able to go to Canada this fall - I missed 2 out of the last 3 years of my annual 11 day duck hunt. Hurricane Michael three years ago and Covid this past year. I NEED to go to kill ducks and see my friends. One of them passed away during all this (not Covid - the real C - Cancer).Sorry, I am rambling. It is pouring here and I am waiting to do something important that I have some control over - turkey hunt!
Quote from: owlhoot on March 30, 2021, 03:32:01 PMQuote from: g8rvet on March 30, 2021, 05:48:45 AMOkay, now the copy is missing? From the internet. Must be with the 9/11 evidence of a government conspiracy. If you have been exposed to someone with COVID you should not be allowed in to a hospital and should be quarantined. What those of us with health care and biology knowledge have said all along is that this should not be about anyone's "rights". It is about biology. If you are a disease vector, you should be isolated until safe. What do you do with a a dog with rabies, a cow with brucellosis, a horse with Swamp fever, etc etc. Sadly, if the entire world would have quarantined for 21 days, the entire world, this would have stopped as soon as it was recognized. It would have put the world back 3 weeks. Saved billions of dollars, changed political elections, etc. We should all let that sink in. But people are selfish and "have rights" and don't trust anyone to tell them what is good for them because "by God, no one can tell me what to do". All the preppers should have gone to bunker! You may be right about travel restrictions. One benefit is I may be able to go to Canada this fall - I missed 2 out of the last 3 years of my annual 11 day duck hunt. Hurricane Michael three years ago and Covid this past year. I NEED to go to kill ducks and see my friends. One of them passed away during all this (not Covid - the real C - Cancer).Sorry, I am rambling. It is pouring here and I am waiting to do something important that I have some control over - turkey hunt! What did you do with the copy?
Quote from: RiverBuck on March 30, 2021, 08:22:24 PMI guess we'll know the vaccine is working when the survival rate goes from 99.7 to 99.8%... ?
Quote from: Jmbradt3873 on March 27, 2021, 10:29:45 PMHopefully everyone has a safe and fun season. Medical director has the final say for us whether we will be required to get it. May have to get one every year from now on like the flu shot. Time will tell I guess. Sent from my LM-G820 using Tapatalk
Quote from: RiverBuck on March 31, 2021, 07:49:44 AMI'm surprised no one has mentioned previous health issues derived after getting vaccinated from other vaccines. Is it because most think that the scientists and medical community finally got all the kinks worked out regarding vaccines and can kick out successful vaccines in less than a year with little testing?
