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Started by Countrylivinnc, March 19, 2021, 04:46:52 PM
Quote from: old3toe on March 19, 2021, 10:35:59 PM I shoot my tightest choke in the top barrel of my 20ga and the open close range choke in the bottom. Many say it's best to shoot the tight choke in the bottom barrel first because you get less muzzle jump and barrel rise. My theory is since my top barrel is loaded with a tight patterning hard hitting load of fed heavyweight 7's and if I need to use it then the bird is at max range or a tad closer. So if I need this barrel and miss then the bird is already to far for the open choke lighter load for the follow up to begin with and should not be fired as a second shot period. So muzzle jump doesn't matter right? Plus I want my tightest shooting barrel as close to my open sights as I can get them. My bottom barrel only shoots a tad lower than the top and is perfect on windage, it makes no difference in aiming with my open sights out to 30yrs in my gun. If your shooting tight chokes in the top and bottom barrel then it makes no difference either way really but I'd still shoot the top first.
Quote from: BandedSpur on March 21, 2021, 09:15:03 AMBeen killing turkeys with stackbarrels since 2009 and doves, waterfowl, and clays for a lot longer than that. I set up the long barrel on bottom. Most O/U's POI is higher with the top barrel and lower with the bottom barrel. This tendency is exacerbated when shooting heavy loads. It is a fact that felt recoil is less when firing the under barrel because the gun recoils straight back into your shoulder with less muzzle rise (which tends to smack you in the cheek). That's why virtually ALL competitive clay target shooters set up their O/Us to shoot the lower barrel first. With less muzzle rise and felt recoil, it is easier for them to get the gun back on target for the second shot of doubles.I shoot 1&5/8 oz TSS handloads in the long barrel and 1&1/4 TSS handloads for the short barrel. After much experimentation, POI is closer to POA with both barrels if I shoot the heavier load in the lower barrel. Set up this way, my long barrel hits about 2" below POA and the top barrel about 2" high at 40 yds. I run an FF III and put the dot on his head with the long barrel and on the waddles with the short barrel.
Quote from: BandedSpur on March 23, 2021, 08:00:43 AMBowguy is correct that traditionally, fixed choke O/Us (primarily designed for upland game) were set up with the more open choke on the bottom. Theory being that an outgoing bird (think quail, grouse, pheasant) will be closer on the first shot and further as it vacates the area for the second shot. That scenario doesn't necessarily apply to turkey hunting. With the advent of screw in chokes and barrel selectors, we can set the gun up however we want. I keep my barrel selector set on the open barrel (top) under the assumption that if a turkey gets the drop on me and shows up in my lap, my gun is set to fire the open barrel. If the bird hangs up well out there, I have plenty of time to slide the selector to fire the long barrel. Most of my turkeys are killed with the open choke. My comments about firing the lower barrel first for clay shooting as a means of reducing muzzle jump and felt recoil for a faster second shot do not necessarily apply to turkey hunting per se, as most turkeys are killed with the first shot. It was only to bring to light the benefits of reduced felt recoil from the lower barrel of an O/U.The comment that "all men should be ok with it" (recoil) is interesting. People have widely varying abilities to handle recoil. A 3.5" shell in a light-weight break action exceeds that of a .458 Win Mag. Recoil that is tolerable for a 30 yo 275 pound guy is possibly a no go for a 160 pound 70 y.o. that has had shoulder reconstruction or a previous detached retina. To each his own.