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Quote from: Turkeytider on December 01, 2020, 10:19:28 PMQuote from: Tom007 on December 01, 2020, 06:10:14 PMAll great info. I will try the 5's in my new Indian Creek .665 in my 870. Do you guys think the Heavy 13 6's, and 7's are as good as the Apex TSS? Would love the feedback. I know it's cheaper than Apex...I`ve never shot a TSS load in my life, but then again I`ve only shot 12 gauge guns. No question that TSS has revolutionized sub -gauge guns for turkey hunting. If I were switching to 20 gauge, no question I`d shoot TSS loads. It`s not hard to find folks who believe that in a 12 that TSS costs are not offset by what you gain. I`ve never felt disadvantaged shooting Hevi-13 loads, but I don`t take shots out beyond 35-40 yards. If I can`t get him inside 40, he wins the match. I want to be sure he doesn`t know what`s hit him. I owe him that.
Quote from: Tom007 on December 01, 2020, 06:10:14 PMAll great info. I will try the 5's in my new Indian Creek .665 in my 870. Do you guys think the Heavy 13 6's, and 7's are as good as the Apex TSS? Would love the feedback. I know it's cheaper than Apex...
Quote from: Tom007 on December 02, 2020, 04:20:32 PMQuote from: Turkeytider on December 01, 2020, 10:19:28 PMQuote from: Tom007 on December 01, 2020, 06:10:14 PMAll great info. I will try the 5's in my new Indian Creek .665 in my 870. Do you guys think the Heavy 13 6's, and 7's are as good as the Apex TSS? Would love the feedback. I know it's cheaper than Apex...I`ve never shot a TSS load in my life, but then again I`ve only shot 12 gauge guns. No question that TSS has revolutionized sub -gauge guns for turkey hunting. If I were switching to 20 gauge, no question I`d shoot TSS loads. It`s not hard to find folks who believe that in a 12 that TSS costs are not offset by what you gain. I`ve never felt disadvantaged shooting Hevi-13 loads, but I don`t take shots out beyond 35-40 yards. If I can`t get him inside 40, he wins the match. I want to be sure he doesn`t know what`s hit him. I owe him that.Great info. Yes, 40 is my absolute Max. When I have a gobbler answer, I range a tree in his general direction. If he passes it, and keeps coming, he's under 40. Works every time. Where do you get your Heavy 13? Thx...
Quote from: bbcoach on December 03, 2020, 11:07:21 AMA buddy of mine shoots this exact load, gun and choke. It patterns well out to 40 but it will run out of pattern density at 50. Since you have stated 40 is the max, you will be fine even if you misjudge the yardage by a few yards.
Quote from: bbcoach on December 03, 2020, 08:31:15 PMMy personnel opinion on TSS in a 12 gauge is WAYYYYYY overkill. TSS does a GREAT job for 20's and .410's to up the pellet count and make them legitimate 40 yard guns. If you are planning on staying inside 40 then pass on the TSS. I would find some Hevi 6's or 7's or Longbeard 6's and give them a try before I went the TSS route. I shoot an 835 with a .670 Pure Gold choke with Hevi 7's and they are devastating. My 2 cents.
Quote from: Tom007 on December 04, 2020, 07:05:29 AMQuote from: bbcoach on December 03, 2020, 08:31:15 PMMy personnel opinion on TSS in a 12 gauge is WAYYYYYY overkill. TSS does a GREAT job for 20's and .410's to up the pellet count and make them legitimate 40 yard guns. If you are planning on staying inside 40 then pass on the TSS. I would find some Hevi 6's or 7's or Longbeard 6's and give them a try before I went the TSS route. I shoot an 835 with a .670 Pure Gold choke with Hevi 7's and they are devastating. My 2 cents. Good advice, could save some coin too. Will get the heavy 6, and 7. They should shoot lights out with my Indian Creek .665 out of my bottomland 870.....thx again for great info....
Quote from: Turkeytider on December 04, 2020, 09:00:18 AMTom, I`m sure you probably know this, but you can get into money if you pattern check with just your turkey loads. Use some #6 field loads to give you an idea of where your hitting, sight in with them, and then confirm with a round or two with your turkey loads. That`s worked for me,
Quote from: bbcoach on December 04, 2020, 12:39:19 PMQuote from: Turkeytider on December 04, 2020, 09:00:18 AMTom, I`m sure you probably know this, but you can get into money if you pattern check with just your turkey loads. Use some #6 field loads to give you an idea of where your hitting, sight in with them, and then confirm with a round or two with your turkey loads. That`s worked for me,Turkeyrider is spot on with the field loads or you can use dove loads as well. Make sure your POA/POI is spot on at 12 to 15 yards before you even experiment with your turkey loads. If your POA/POI is off get a set of Williams sights or opt for a scope or red dot and correct the POA/POI first then do some experimenting.
Quote from: bbcoach on December 04, 2020, 08:09:16 AMQuote from: Tom007 on December 04, 2020, 07:05:29 AMQuote from: bbcoach on December 03, 2020, 08:31:15 PMMy personnel opinion on TSS in a 12 gauge is WAYYYYYY overkill. TSS does a GREAT job for 20's and .410's to up the pellet count and make them legitimate 40 yard guns. If you are planning on staying inside 40 then pass on the TSS. I would find some Hevi 6's or 7's or Longbeard 6's and give them a try before I went the TSS route. I shoot an 835 with a .670 Pure Gold choke with Hevi 7's and they are devastating. My 2 cents. Good advice, could save some coin too. Will get the heavy 6, and 7. They should shoot lights out with my Indian Creek .665 out of my bottomland 870.....thx again for great info....You won't be disappointed with the Hevi 6's or 7's or the Longbeard 6's with that .675 Indian Creek. IMO, probably one of the best chokes for the 870. Coin wise, LB's are about $1.50 to $2 per shell to shoot, Hevi around $4 to $5 and TSS $8 to $10. All will do the job very effectively.
Quote from: Turkeytider on December 04, 2020, 12:47:12 PMQuote from: bbcoach on December 04, 2020, 12:39:19 PMQuote from: Turkeytider on December 04, 2020, 09:00:18 AMTom, I`m sure you probably know this, but you can get into money if you pattern check with just your turkey loads. Use some #6 field loads to give you an idea of where your hitting, sight in with them, and then confirm with a round or two with your turkey loads. That`s worked for me,Turkeyrider is spot on with the field loads or you can use dove loads as well. Make sure your POA/POI is spot on at 12 to 15 yards before you even experiment with your turkey loads. If your POA/POI is off get a set of Williams sights or opt for a scope or red dot and correct the POA/POI first then do some experimenting.You guys are spot on. I like the red dot, but my scoped turkey guns are my favorite. Nothing like that crosshair on that waddle, he's toast. When I was young, the double bead worked with my young eyes. Once I went to optics, there's no going back. Love them.....be safe...Hardly unusual for POA/POI not to line up. I became an optics convert via turkey hunting!