I've had 2 835's. First one was the older version with the ribbed pump. Sold it and about 2012 bought another. The stock angle had less drop at heel and had a ported barrel. 3.5's were less abusive but more than I wanted. When Federals 3", 1.75oz tss came out life got much better with the 835. I have some Apex 2.25oz loads but haven't tried them yet. I'm sure the heavier payload will rock more no doubt.