Bowguy I'm not so sure they discontinued the 2 1/4oz magnums. I've bought them in the same new double x box the high velocity 3 1/2" 2oz loads come in now. New packaging but same shells. Black high velocities and red magnums. I think places just aren't carrying them anymore because of all the new loads out on the market now. Makes them harder to sell. But I talk to lots of people that want them and can't get them still. I've got a bunch of the 2 1/4oz 6's too and would get more if I found them. I do know where some 2 1/4oz magnum 4's are now and thought about grabbing some of them in case they did indeed quit making the magnums. I've never shot them though but heard in the past they are a killer patterning load too. They're in the new double X boxes too.