I have a Winchester SX4 20ga. Everything I've been able to read is that (Winchester's Active Valve System) can handle heavy TSS loads, up to 2 oz. As that valve uses only enough gas to operate the bolt and vents out the rest. That was one of the reason's I bought that gun because I knew how much recoil TSS has. From what I can tell after shooting TSS 1 5/8 load is the recoil is not bad at all for a TSS load...