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20 gauge lead load

Started by Smallfry, February 19, 2026, 08:03:54 AM

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Dtrkyman

Dude has pics of 1.5oz of lead he is loading and a couple companies offering loads now as well.

Windy hill has lead 7s as an option.


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turkeykiller41

Quote from: Gooserbat on February 21, 2026, 09:33:36 AMLead is 11.3 g/cm and tss is 18+ g,/cm depending on the exact alloy composition.  In short not much more than the 1 1/4 oz of lead will fit in the shell. 
If a 1 1/4 oz is all that will fit,how do explain the Windy Hill 1 7/16 oz load and the other guys 1 1/2 oz load of 6s.

Gooserbat

Quote from: turkeykiller41 on February 21, 2026, 11:49:13 AM
Quote from: Gooserbat on February 21, 2026, 09:33:36 AMLead is 11.3 g/cm and tss is 18+ g,/cm depending on the exact alloy composition.  In short not much more than the 1 1/4 oz of lead will fit in the shell. 
If a 1 1/4 oz is all that will fit,how do explain the Windy Hill 1 7/16 oz load and the other guys 1 1/2 oz load of 6s.

It's wad volume.  First not all wads have the same internal volume.  Second an ounce of tss is a different volume than an ounce of lead shot.  Two different factors dictating outcome of an equation.



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chipper

I load a 1 3/8 ounce load with BPI 2092 wad that shoots good. You can get 1.5 in that wad but barely.

turkeykiller41

Quote from: Gooserbat on February 21, 2026, 01:55:13 PM
Quote from: turkeykiller41 on February 21, 2026, 11:49:13 AM
Quote from: Gooserbat on February 21, 2026, 09:33:36 AMLead is 11.3 g/cm and tss is 18+ g,/cm depending on the exact alloy composition.  In short not much more than the 1 1/4 oz of lead will fit in the shell. 
If a 1 1/4 oz is all that will fit,how do explain the Windy Hill 1 7/16 oz load and the other guys 1 1/2 oz load of 6s.

It's wad volume.  First not all wads have the same internal volume.  Second an ounce of tss is a different volume than an ounce of lead shot.  Two different factors dictating outcome of an equation.Thank You.





turkeykiller41

What kind of numbers did they get with the Jebs 560

patternfreak

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Quote from: Gooserbat on February 21, 2026, 01:55:13 PM
Quote from: turkeykiller41 on February 21, 2026, 11:49:13 AM
Quote from: Gooserbat on February 21, 2026, 09:33:36 AMLead is 11.3 g/cm and tss is 18+ g,/cm depending on the exact alloy composition.  In short not much more than the 1 1/4 oz of lead will fit in the shell. 
If a 1 1/4 oz is all that will fit,how do explain the Windy Hill 1 7/16 oz load and the other guys 1 1/2 oz load of 6s.

It's wad volume.  First not all wads have the same internal volume.  Second an ounce of tss is a different volume than an ounce of lead shot.  Two different factors dictating outcome of an equation.


1.5oz of Nickel Plated Lead with 15 grains of Mix 47 buffer fits like a glove in a 3" TPS wad. Not a single pellet above the rim of the wad. Could honestly bump it up to 1-9/16oz with less buffer if you wanted to.

The reason there aren't any mass produced loads over 1.25oz is because lead load development took a major backseat when TSS came to the market. Really, the past 10 years of shotshell load development for most companies has consisted of something to do with TSS or another heavyweight shot material.

I'm going to develop some lead loads that will let us give China the middle finger and utilize shot we can buy right here in the USA for $5 per pound or less. 3 loads went out for testing this week. 1.5oz 20ga 3", 2oz 12ga 3", and 2-5/8oz 10ga.


turkeykiller41

Quote from: patternfreak on Today at 10:13:33 AM
Quote from: Gooserbat on February 21, 2026, 01:55:13 PM
Quote from: turkeykiller41 on February 21, 2026, 11:49:13 AM
Quote from: Gooserbat on February 21, 2026, 09:33:36 AMLead is 11.3 g/cm and tss is 18+ g,/cm depending on the exact alloy composition.  In short not much more than the 1 1/4 oz of lead will fit in the shell. 
If a 1 1/4 oz is all that will fit,how do explain the Windy Hill 1 7/16 oz load and the other guys 1 1/2 oz load of 6s.

It's wad volume.  First not all wads have the same internal volume.  Second an ounce of tss is a different volume than an ounce of lead shot.  Two different factors dictating outcome of an equation.


1.5oz of Nickel Plated Lead with 15 grains of Mix 47 buffer fits like a glove in a 3" TPS wad. Not a single pellet above the rim of the wad. Could honestly bump it up to 1-9/16oz with less buffer if you wanted to.

The reason there aren't any mass produced loads over 1.25oz is because lead load development took a major backseat when TSS came to the market. Really, the past 10 years of shotshell load development for most companies has consisted of something to do with TSS or another heavyweight shot material.

I'm going to develop some lead loads that will let us give China the middle finger and utilize shot we can buy right here in the USA for $5 per pound or less. 3 loads went out for testing this week. 1.5oz 20ga 3", 2oz 12ga 3", and 2-5/8oz 10ga.