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New Jersey Turkey Survey

Started by JeffC, June 12, 2025, 08:47:30 PM

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Ol Timer

#30
Quote from: Roost 1 on June 15, 2025, 01:24:19 PMThe zones and seasons won't go away. You will still have to pick that. But the days of buying 26 tags are going away.
Might not be this year or next but trust me it's in the works.
I disagree with most of that, if and when it might go to two bird limit your still going to buy multiple tags otc just like you can now to hunt the zones you like to hunt but it's only going to be two Legal Birds. If you're buying just 5 tags for A thru E in 1 zone then 4 more somewhere else in another zone guess who is still making money. That way the state  still get there money and you get less birds because that's what you the people ask for. As far as doubling the permits money that might happen also that will balance out the loss factor.

Hook hanger

Quote from: Roost 1 on June 15, 2025, 01:24:19 PMThe zones and seasons won't go away. You will still have to pick that. But the days of buying 26 tags are going away.
Might not be this year or next but trust me it's in the works.

If the harvest is unchanged why would you worry about the amount of tags one person has. Maybe he has enough land/habitat to withstand the amount of harvest he is doing.

Hook hanger

Maybe they should justify the amount of tags by how much land you own.
0-ac 1 tag 1 zone 1 time period
20ac-100ac 1 tag 1 zone 2 time periods
500ac 3 tags
1000ac 6 tags
1500ac 9 tags.
And so on.

Ol Timer

Quote from: Hook hanger on June 15, 2025, 03:36:03 PMMaybe they should justify the amount of tags by how much land you own.
0-ac 1 tag 1 zone 1 time period
20ac-100ac 1 tag 1 zone 2 time periods
500ac 3 tags
1000ac 6 tags
1500ac 9 tags.
And so on.
That makes no sense whatsoever I hunt 10,000 AC of public land what do I get?

Hook hanger

Quote from: Ol Timer on June 15, 2025, 03:42:16 PM
Quote from: Hook hanger on June 15, 2025, 03:36:03 PMMaybe they should justify the amount of tags by how much land you own.
0-ac 1 tag 1 zone 1 time period
20ac-100ac 1 tag 1 zone 2 time periods
500ac 3 tags
1000ac 6 tags
1500ac 9 tags.
And so on.
That makes no sense whatsoever I hunt 10,000 AC of public land what do I get?

1 tag because you own 0ac

Who owns and controls how much turkey habitat is on the landscape its definitely not the small 10k wma. Alot of you guys look at things from such a small view of an issue its sad.

Hook hanger

Quote from: Ol Timer on June 15, 2025, 03:42:16 PM
Quote from: Hook hanger on June 15, 2025, 03:36:03 PMMaybe they should justify the amount of tags by how much land you own.
0-ac 1 tag 1 zone 1 time period
20ac-100ac 1 tag 1 zone 2 time periods
500ac 3 tags
1000ac 6 tags
1500ac 9 tags.
And so on.
That makes no sense whatsoever I hunt 10,000 AC of public land what do I get?

Think of this way how many tags get used on the 10k ac wma you hunt. Now if I own 10k ac how many tags should I be allowed.

Ol Timer

Not sure where your logic is that land management should be based on tags on land acreage. If you're hunting private land vs public and live in an area like northern NJ that has less turkeys but I own 50ac why even buy a tag with your plan. Then go to a WMA with the same plan, Your forcing folks to not even hunt.

Roost 1

Just remember you heard it from a resident of KY first.

TrackeySauresRex

Quote from: Hook hanger on June 14, 2025, 01:49:21 PMIf i lived in New Jersey i garentee i would be Killing 26 there a spring.

Best OG response of all time  :TooFunny:

Take it ez Carlray Holifield  :TooFunny:

"If You Call Them,They Will Come."


Tom007

Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on June 15, 2025, 11:41:53 AM
Quote from: Tom007 on June 15, 2025, 06:20:49 AMPeople do not realize how much the lottery process cost. It's not cheap. Make it simple like most other states, 2 bird limit per season, period! Get the revenue through a stamp, just like the pheasant stamp. It's simple, a 2 bird total limit, and no hen harvesting will help the population. I hope they address this before next season, knowing the Fish & Game bureaucracy, I doubt it will happen. Stay tuned....

I'm in full support of this.

However, Nj and simple in the same sentence. :lol:

I know how Pa and Ny do it and is great. I can hunt anywhere I'd like in the whole state.

I wish Nj adopted that. But cant because southern zones will then be over their harvest.

If Nj had zero zones and a 2 bird limit they will loose Boo-Koo bucks. This is why I say they double the permit fee.

I wouldn't be surprised if that pheasant stamp went up either.


I got a dollar that says they won't do soup!
Not anytime soon anyway..

More to follow.

I agree, it's money driven, not biology driven...sad

JeffC

Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on June 15, 2025, 09:23:03 PM
Quote from: Hook hanger on June 14, 2025, 01:49:21 PMIf i lived in New Jersey i garentee i would be Killing 26 there a spring.

Best OG response of all time  :TooFunny:

Take it ez Carlray Holifield  :TooFunny:



I think it's safe to say he's never tired the great Monday tag sale. Tags go on sale at 10AM, hot zones sell out in minutes if not seconds. I have never heard anyone being able to get more then 3 tags for a A or E weeks in a good zone.
I will still buy my usual 6 to 8 tags no matter the limit.  Go enjoy the hunt, don't always have to pull trigger. 
Print by Madison Cline, on Flickr  GO BIRDS  FLY EAGLES FLY

TrackeySauresRex

Quote from: JeffC on June 16, 2025, 07:53:11 AM
Quote from: TrackeySauresRex on June 15, 2025, 09:23:03 PM
Quote from: Hook hanger on June 14, 2025, 01:49:21 PMIf i lived in New Jersey i garentee i would be Killing 26 there a spring.

Best OG response of all time  :TooFunny:

Take it ez Carlray Holifield  :TooFunny:



I think it's safe to say he's never tired the great Monday tag sale. Tags go on sale at 10AM, hot zones sell out in minutes if not seconds. I have never heard anyone being able to get more then 3 tags for a A or E weeks in a good zone.
I will still buy my usual 6 to 8 tags no matter the limit.

" Go enjoy the hunt, don't always have to pull trigger."

100%


I'm usually good for 3 permits a season. Mostly because I hunt in Pa and Ny as well.

This year I was able to get 1 for A, 1 for B and 1 for C.

It's no guarantee you will get week A in the lottery.  Week B OTC is a crap shoot. This last spring, I did get a D permit which is the two week season.

Now... here is something to think about in week D.
2 Bird limit. (Season)
2 week season,
hunt all day..
Pay for one zone.

Mann they gonna have to iron out a lot of ShhhhTuff.
"If You Call Them,They Will Come."


Ol Timer

#42
Quote from: Hook hanger on June 15, 2025, 03:36:03 PMMaybe they should justify the amount of tags by how much land you own.
0-ac 1 tag 1 zone 1 time period
20ac-100ac 1 tag 1 zone 2 time periods
500ac 3 tags
1000ac 6 tags
1500ac 9 tags.
And so on.
Maybe they limit the amount of tags to non residents with a separate lottery for them increase the permit fee and make them wait 9 days after the season opener allowing the residents to have the woods before it's overloaded with people and helping with a better population of turkeys.

TrackeySauresRex

Quote from: joey46 on June 16, 2025, 11:04:09 AMThat's the spirit.  Screw the non-resident at every opportunity. The current NJ regs show an almost total lack of accountability. Any changes would have to be an improvement :lol:
Some of these replies reading like a script from the Comedy Channel.  Give it a LOL with a giggle back up.

Again 100%

I think there trolling us sometimes

Unfortunately that's what some states have done.
The information I give is just from my own experience.

But it stinks getting shut out on week A and a Non resident gets the permit.

Hopefully the right decisions are made for the further.. Soon.


Keep the faith.

"If You Call Them,They Will Come."


Hook hanger

Quote from: Ol Timer on June 16, 2025, 09:56:22 AM
Quote from: Hook hanger on June 15, 2025, 03:36:03 PMMaybe they should justify the amount of tags by how much land you own.
0-ac 1 tag 1 zone 1 time period
20ac-100ac 1 tag 1 zone 2 time periods
500ac 3 tags
1000ac 6 tags
1500ac 9 tags.
And so on.
Maybe they limit the amount of tags to non residents with a separate lottery for them increase the permit fee and make them wait 9 days after the season opener allowing the residents to have the woods before it's overloaded with people and helping with a better population of turkeys.

How about if you don't live in the zone your applying for you are treated like a nonresident.