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Started by Taxidermist58, May 11, 2025, 02:59:54 PM

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Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 08:17:35 AM
Quote from: Taxidermist58 on May 16, 2025, 07:53:30 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 06:52:16 AMI think Browning is a good company but I'm not a fan of the plastic insides like the ones in the silver. Think the m2 benelli did the same thing. I ain't getting rid of my m1.
Funny cause a bud n I talked about this last night. I've got an older ulti mag. His but a year old. Way lighter. Wonder what they did and the what it'll do to longevity.
I am sure guys will think it's ok but what happens as plastic ages? Does it dry out n crack/warp? (All plastic does) Now can your kids get the parts 30 years from now

Depends on what kind of plastic. I worked in a chemical/plastic plant for over 30 years. We could add materials to the plastic that could make it soft, hard, fire proof, UV resistant, etc., etc. I also have one of the first 835's, the Waterfowl Edition with the emblem in the stock. It looks as good as new.

Do you think most companies will add that? And how did the treating last after heating, cooling over 30 years? I can't see that being good
Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 08:17:35 AM
Quote from: Taxidermist58 on May 16, 2025, 07:53:30 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 06:52:16 AMI think Browning is a good company but I'm not a fan of the plastic insides like the ones in the silver. Think the m2 benelli did the same thing. I ain't getting rid of my m1.
Funny cause a bud n I talked about this last night. I've got an older ulti mag. His but a year old. Way lighter. Wonder what they did and the what it'll do to longevity.
I am sure guys will think it's ok but what happens as plastic ages? Does it dry out n crack/warp? (All plastic does) Now can your kids get the parts 30 years from now

Depends on what kind of plastic. I worked in a chemical/plastic plant for over 30 years. We could add materials to the plastic that could make it soft, hard, fire proof, UV resistant, etc., etc. I also have one of the first 835's, the Waterfowl Edition with the emblem in the stock. It looks as good as new.

Do you think most companies will add that? And how did the treating last after heating, cooling over 30 years? I can't see that being good

I would think that they would want to add certain properties. We made the plastic into pellets for customers who injection mold their products and in any color. The customer chooses what properties they want in the plastic. We made it to their specs. It's the same color all of the way through, except some auto parts were painted. Yes, depending on what properties were added, it would last indefinitely. Heat or cold would not affect it, nor would being left in the sun with the right properties.

Bowguy

Quote from: Taxidermist58 on May 16, 2025, 11:10:16 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 08:17:35 AM
Quote from: Taxidermist58 on May 16, 2025, 07:53:30 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 06:52:16 AMI think Browning is a good company but I'm not a fan of the plastic insides like the ones in the silver. Think the m2 benelli did the same thing. I ain't getting rid of my m1.
Funny cause a bud n I talked about this last night. I've got an older ulti mag. His but a year old. Way lighter. Wonder what they did and the what it'll do to longevity.
I am sure guys will think it's ok but what happens as plastic ages? Does it dry out n crack/warp? (All plastic does) Now can your kids get the parts 30 years from now

Depends on what kind of plastic. I worked in a chemical/plastic plant for over 30 years. We could add materials to the plastic that could make it soft, hard, fire proof, UV resistant, etc., etc. I also have one of the first 835's, the Waterfowl Edition with the emblem in the stock. It looks as good as new.

Do you think most companies will add that? And how did the treating last after heating, cooling over 30 years? I can't see that being good
Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 08:17:35 AM
Quote from: Taxidermist58 on May 16, 2025, 07:53:30 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 06:52:16 AMI think Browning is a good company but I'm not a fan of the plastic insides like the ones in the silver. Think the m2 benelli did the same thing. I ain't getting rid of my m1.
Funny cause a bud n I talked about this last night. I've got an older ulti mag. His but a year old. Way lighter. Wonder what they did and the what it'll do to longevity.
I am sure guys will think it's ok but what happens as plastic ages? Does it dry out n crack/warp? (All plastic does) Now can your kids get the parts 30 years from now

Depends on what kind of plastic. I worked in a chemical/plastic plant for over 30 years. We could add materials to the plastic that could make it soft, hard, fire proof, UV resistant, etc., etc. I also have one of the first 835's, the Waterfowl Edition with the emblem in the stock. It looks as good as new.

Do you think most companies will add that? And how did the treating last after heating, cooling over 30 years? I can't see that being good

I would think that they would want to add certain properties. We made the plastic into pellets for customers who injection mold their products and in any color. The customer chooses what properties they want in the plastic. We made it to their specs. It's the same color all of the way through, except some auto parts were painted. Yes, depending on what properties were added, it would last indefinitely. Heat or cold would not affect it, nor would being left in the sun with the right properties.

I got ya but everything breaks down. I'm sure reasonable timeframe it's fine. I'd love to see these plastic parts 30,40, 50 years from now. I'd not buy a gun I felt would become unusable. Anyway was just a personal thought

Taxidermist58

Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 11:56:38 AM
Quote from: Taxidermist58 on May 16, 2025, 11:10:16 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 08:17:35 AM
Quote from: Taxidermist58 on May 16, 2025, 07:53:30 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 06:52:16 AMI think Browning is a good company but I'm not a fan of the plastic insides like the ones in the silver. Think the m2 benelli did the same thing. I ain't getting rid of my m1.
Funny cause a bud n I talked about this last night. I've got an older ulti mag. His but a year old. Way lighter. Wonder what they did and the what it'll do to longevity.
I am sure guys will think it's ok but what happens as plastic ages? Does it dry out n crack/warp? (All plastic does) Now can your kids get the parts 30 years from now

Depends on what kind of plastic. I worked in a chemical/plastic plant for over 30 years. We could add materials to the plastic that could make it soft, hard, fire proof, UV resistant, etc., etc. I also have one of the first 835's, the Waterfowl Edition with the emblem in the stock. It looks as good as new.

Do you think most companies will add that? And how did the treating last after heating, cooling over 30 years? I can't see that being good
Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 08:17:35 AM
Quote from: Taxidermist58 on May 16, 2025, 07:53:30 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 06:52:16 AMI think Browning is a good company but I'm not a fan of the plastic insides like the ones in the silver. Think the m2 benelli did the same thing. I ain't getting rid of my m1.
Funny cause a bud n I talked about this last night. I've got an older ulti mag. His but a year old. Way lighter. Wonder what they did and the what it'll do to longevity.
I am sure guys will think it's ok but what happens as plastic ages? Does it dry out n crack/warp? (All plastic does) Now can your kids get the parts 30 years from now

Depends on what kind of plastic. I worked in a chemical/plastic plant for over 30 years. We could add materials to the plastic that could make it soft, hard, fire proof, UV resistant, etc., etc. I also have one of the first 835's, the Waterfowl Edition with the emblem in the stock. It looks as good as new.

Do you think most companies will add that? And how did the treating last after heating, cooling over 30 years? I can't see that being good

I would think that they would want to add certain properties. We made the plastic into pellets for customers who injection mold their products and in any color. The customer chooses what properties they want in the plastic. We made it to their specs. It's the same color all of the way through, except some auto parts were painted. Yes, depending on what properties were added, it would last indefinitely. Heat or cold would not affect it, nor would being left in the sun with the right properties.

I got ya but everything breaks down. I'm sure reasonable timeframe it's fine. I'd love to see these plastic parts 30,40, 50 years from now. I'd not buy a gun I felt would become unusable. Anyway was just a personal thought

Yes, I guess eventually everything can break down, but none of us would be alive to witness it!

Bowguy

Quote from: Taxidermist58 on May 16, 2025, 01:26:24 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 11:56:38 AM
Quote from: Taxidermist58 on May 16, 2025, 11:10:16 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 08:17:35 AM
Quote from: Taxidermist58 on May 16, 2025, 07:53:30 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 06:52:16 AMI think Browning is a good company but I'm not a fan of the plastic insides like the ones in the silver. Think the m2 benelli did the same thing. I ain't getting rid of my m1.
Funny cause a bud n I talked about this last night. I've got an older ulti mag. His but a year old. Way lighter. Wonder what they did and the what it'll do to longevity.
I am sure guys will think it's ok but what happens as plastic ages? Does it dry out n crack/warp? (All plastic does) Now can your kids get the parts 30 years from now

Depends on what kind of plastic. I worked in a chemical/plastic plant for over 30 years. We could add materials to the plastic that could make it soft, hard, fire proof, UV resistant, etc., etc. I also have one of the first 835's, the Waterfowl Edition with the emblem in the stock. It looks as good as new.

Do you think most companies will add that? And how did the treating last after heating, cooling over 30 years? I can't see that being good
Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 08:17:35 AM
Quote from: Taxidermist58 on May 16, 2025, 07:53:30 AM
Quote from: Bowguy on May 16, 2025, 06:52:16 AMI think Browning is a good company but I'm not a fan of the plastic insides like the ones in the silver. Think the m2 benelli did the same thing. I ain't getting rid of my m1.
Funny cause a bud n I talked about this last night. I've got an older ulti mag. His but a year old. Way lighter. Wonder what they did and the what it'll do to longevity.
I am sure guys will think it's ok but what happens as plastic ages? Does it dry out n crack/warp? (All plastic does) Now can your kids get the parts 30 years from now

Depends on what kind of plastic. I worked in a chemical/plastic plant for over 30 years. We could add materials to the plastic that could make it soft, hard, fire proof, UV resistant, etc., etc. I also have one of the first 835's, the Waterfowl Edition with the emblem in the stock. It looks as good as new.

Do you think most companies will add that? And how did the treating last after heating, cooling over 30 years? I can't see that being good

I would think that they would want to add certain properties. We made the plastic into pellets for customers who injection mold their products and in any color. The customer chooses what properties they want in the plastic. We made it to their specs. It's the same color all of the way through, except some auto parts were painted. Yes, depending on what properties were added, it would last indefinitely. Heat or cold would not affect it, nor would being left in the sun with the right properties.

I got ya but everything breaks down. I'm sure reasonable timeframe it's fine. I'd love to see these plastic parts 30,40, 50 years from now. I'd not buy a gun I felt would become unusable. Anyway was just a personal thought

Yes, I guess eventually everything can break down, but none of us would be alive to witness it!

How special is shooting a turkey w grand daddy's gun?