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Smoke phase

Started by GAmountainman, April 11, 2025, 10:13:02 AM

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Tom007


Cowboy

Cool gobbler Ol timer. Great mount as well. 

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Mallard1897

Beautiful bird ol timer. I was watching one similar last year on a property that I hunt. Saw him the year before as a Jake. He had a habit of strutting in plain view of the road so I think he was shot before season as I never saw him from opening morning on.

Several miles away from there on public we did end up working a different white winged bird in and my dad was fortunate enough to connect with him. He's in the process of getting it mounted so we still have some of the meat. I reached out to wild turkey DNA and they confirmed they would like to sample the bird so I'm waiting for the kit. Participated in the duck DNA program the past few years through DU for similar mallard research and they need a tissue sample. I'm interested in seeing if the color phase is just mutation or DNA from a feral farm turkey.

I've seen smoke grey hens in the past but never any color phase gobbler.

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dzsmith

Quote from: Dhamilton1 on April 11, 2025, 10:44:10 AMCheck this out. They are doing a study and collecting samples on odd colored turkeys.

https://wildturkeydna.com

Dr. Mike Chamberland

Have heard about it on several podcasts.


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interesting because years ago... if somebody killed a black wing bird or a solid white bird ... folks were like wow how rare . Doesn't seem so rare anymore ... I mean seriously prolly 1/2 the people I know including myself have killed some variation of a color phase / melanistic bird. And it seems that on social media for my state alone multiple solid white ones are killed every year . I know this doesn't make it "not rare".... Perhaps the ratio of them is the same, you just hear about it due to the internet
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Dougas

I read somewhere that you have a 1 in 500 chance of seeing a smoke gray hen and a 1 in 1500 chance of seeing a smoke gray tom. Some genetics are stronger on some areas than others so I think the odds may be skewed.

Dougas

The first one I shot weighed 15.3 pounds and had a nine inch beard, 3/4 inch spur on one side and little button on the other, they look like they were made of mud, very light dull brown with deep grooves running up and down them and rough like a cocoanut. The legs had a lot of white pigment in them. The speculum was very unconventional in shape and appearance. It had yellow scabs all over it and a weird toe. I mounted it in a standing pose.

The second one had a 5 inch beard and button spurs. It weight 13 pounds and had yellow scabs on it. It had normal color legs. I mounted it in a hanging dead pose.

Fall tom #1 was 19.6 pounds, a little over 7 inch beard and 3/4 sharp spurs, normal color legs and normal shaped speculum. I mounted it in a walking strut pose.

The second fall tom was 18.3 pounds with a little under 7 inch beard, an ugly mud looking deep grooved spur about 5/8 inches long and the other was the same, however, the tip was shredded into thin fringe like shards.
Its speculum was normal shaped. I did a cape/tail mount in a silver victorian picture frame over fall leave covered cloth design. I bought a small medieval silver shield and plucked the breast feathers to glue them inside the shield in a design and mounted the speculum on each side and glued the spurs to the shield. I put that in the same type of picture fame as the cape with fall leaf design cloth beneath. It had normal colored legs.