New Trucks

[bbcoach]

If you don't need ALL the Bells and Whistles, there are Full size trucks out there for way less than 60K.  I was VERY fortunate to find and purchase a 2022 Ford F-150 STX Crew Cab, last May for what Toyota wanted for their new Tacoma's.  The truck had 3,675 miles and was garage kept.  No it does not have 4-wheel drive but I don't need that.  But it did come with the 5.0 that I believe is better than the turbos and most of the Ford mechanics say the same thing.  It did come with the tailgate step (needed for us Old Farts), backup camera which is nice, large screen, 20 inch tires, electric windows and door locks, cruise, a/c and a few other nice amenities.  My advice is look at what you really need, not want, and shop accordingly.  Hope you find what you need.  I wish I could post a PIC but not sure how. 

[Yoder409]

A thought....

Look for a low mileage 2022 or 2023 and let someone else take the initial beating on depreciation.

[Happy]

There are some deals to be had on used vehicles. The bad part is that many of them that are in good condition and low milage aren't much cheaper than new. Then there is the whole warranty issue. Everyone has their tastes, but for me personally, I can be perfectly happy with a more basic model and also have less parts to worry about breaking. Plus, I have cash left over to do some add-ons that I want. Depreciation definitely sucks though.

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[afhunter1]

I have a 2024 1500 SLT with the 3.0 Babymax and 10 speed transmission. 

This is the only setup I'd buy from Chevy and I'm a Chevy guy.  I tow up to 10k and it handles it amazingly well for a 1500.  I just totaled a 2500 6.6 Duramax and it was much better but the 1500 is perfectly safe and comfortable. 

I am really impressed with this combo.  I've hit 30mpg a few times but avg 24.4. 

With my trailer my 1500 gets 16mpg loaded.  my old 2500 got 15 mpg empty and 10 mpg with same trailer.  Crazy what they can do today.  And IMHO there is no other combo in any 1500 class truck that is even close same ball park as the Babymax / 10 speed. 

[Dhamilton1]

Any of you Chevy/GMC guys worried about the transmission's going out? I know they've had some issues with them but to be honest not sure which one or what years.

I just personally know of two people on my street 1) a 2023 Chevy 1500 and 2) a 2023 Chevy Tahoe that had transmissions replaced before 50,000 miles


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[davisd9]

Any of you Chevy/GMC guys worried about the transmission's going out? I know they've had some issues with them but to be honest not sure which one or what years.

I just personally know of two people on my street 1) a 2023 Chevy 1500 and 2) a 2023 Chevy Tahoe that had transmissions replaced before 50,000 miles


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All the truck brands have concerns with transmissions, it is what happens when the govt pushes emissions. You never get something for nothing.

[afhunter1]

 I know a lot of Chevy tranny's have had issues with a torque converter causing premature wear.   I don't believe there are any of these issues with the 10 speed.   It has been very durable as has the Babymax.    The first few Babymax's drank a little oil when towing heavy but they changed the pistons to steel in 2022 I think and that solved that problem.  The new gas motors are all prone to lifter failure at any time without warning.   It's a shame what the auto industry has come to. 

3.0 has 305hp and 495 ft # torque.  With the max tow package mine is rated for towing up to 12,500#.

[YoungGobbler]

The problem with new trucks (and also all vehicules) nowadays... Is that, why can't they make trucks without all the bells and whistles that lots of us don't want, nor need?? I don't need a truck with a seat that gives me back massage while the truck stays in it's lane by itself and a computer that can start the crockpot at home an hour before I arrive so my chicken is hot when I get there...
All I need is a radio, a heater and electric windows... Making trucks with less technologies could help bring the prices down.

[Turkeyfever]

I have a Chevy Silverado trail boss LT with the 5.3 and I really like it. I looked at the custom and LT. I had always driven midsize trucks and absolutely no comparison. Chevy has 2.9 percent on the 2.7 turbo Max  trucks right now. I researched the heck out of that turbo Max  engine as I first started looking and it seems solid. The only complaint I ever seen was it just didn't sound like a big truck! Lol. If you look around you will find that you can get an LT at a reasonable price if you just find one packaged the way you want. I ended up with the 5.3 because it was not much more and honestly the gas mileage was not much different than the 2.7. When I was looking Chevy gave a 100,000 mile power train warranty on the 2.7 turbo Max. Not some gimmick deal but actually from Chevrolet. Good luck in your search!

[Sixes]

I drove a Turbomax for 2 months last year while getting the 6.2 replaced in my 2020 Trail Boss. The truck was fine but I could hear a slight whine and the power was not like the 6.2. I didn't pull anything with it, but it was a lot different than the 6.2. It did get good gas mileage.

I'm in the market right now, but I am planning on getting a 2500 with the 6.6 gas engine, solely to do away with the DFM system that GM puts on their engines.

From what I have read/talked to mechanics, you either get a good engine or you will have oil consumption issues at 50K miles. That is exactly what mine did, it was burning over a quart every fill up (350 miles). GM replaced the engine without much hassle and I was at 59K miles at the time and out of my truck for 2 months. But, it left a sour taste in my mouth about the AFM/DFM systems. That is the second time that I have had these issues. First one was on a 2012 5.3 with AFM. My story is pretty common, a buddy has a 2021 Tahoe getting a new engine right now due to oil consumption and bad lifters.

The 6.6 gas burner does not have the DFM nor the auto stop crap.

[kytrkyhntr]

As someone who works in the auto industry and has traveled around the country working with and in various auto plants my opinion is such, Toyota is the only brand that will actually stand by their product and prioritizes quality. My future purchases will be Toyota. i do personally own a Silverado. its 10 years old and has 100k miles on it on the nose. i have been pleased with that truck. however, i have also seen the tranny go out in my exact truck for 3-4 others.

[NYturkey]

Picking up my new 2025 Toyota Tundra today. I have been a Toyota fan for a lot of years now. They had some issues, but just how they went about fixing them impressed me. Not to mention, the trade in value is amazing.


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[OJR]

I have to echo the positive remarks on the Toyota's. I have 2 Sequoias, which are basically enclosed Tundra's. One with 245,000 and one with 189,000 miles. They are by far the best vehicles I have owned in my 65 years. Keep up the maintenance and they will last and last.

Quick story... a friend and hunting buddy of mine who lives in Arkansas was a GMC guy for a large portion of his adult life. Time came to go get a new truck and he drove to the GMC/Toyota dealership. After looking around, he walked through the service area to get to get back to his truck and go home to think about it. On the way he ran into the service manager who he had come to know due to his many visits for repairs over the years. He asked the SM what he thought about the Tundra's.  The guy said "I don't know". My friend said "Why don't you know, you work on them don't you". The SM replied, "No we don't work on them". "They sell them up front and we never see them again". He's a Toyota guy now.

[kytrkyhntr]

i can tell ya first hand all auto manufactures other than toyota design their vehicles to last about 10-12 years with the knowledge that americans will want bigger and better and sell it before the 4 year mark anyway or at first real maintenance needed.

[bbcoach]

i can tell ya first hand all auto manufactures other than toyota design their vehicles to last about 10-12 years with the knowledge that americans will want bigger and better and sell it before the 4 year mark anyway or at first real maintenance needed.

My F-150 replaced a 2003 Toyota Tacoma with 235000 miles.  To a point, I agree Toyota's are/were what American Automakers should strive for.  When I looked for something to replace my First Gen Tacoma, I looked at Yotas first and foremost.  When you have something that has lasted 20+ years and for the most part only needed brakes, tires and oil changes you go back to that manufacture.  A year ago, Toyota was having engine problems, with metal showing up, and they were adding a BIG surcharge to the price of their vehicles, $10000 to $15000 because they couldn't get vehicles.  NO WAY in my pocketbook!  I believe Yotas are Great vehicles, but dealers can't expect a consumer to Pony up that kind of money because dealers can't get vehicles and engines were BOMBING.  I hope and pray, the F-150 will deliver but only time will answer that.