Corner crossing

[Paulmyr]

New court ruling says corner crossings are legal in 6 states!

https://www.outdoorlife.com/conservation/appeals-court-rules-corner-crossing-legal/

[arkrem870]

Win for sportsman

[deathfoot]

Glad to see that ruling! Hopefully that'll set the standard for other courts to follow in other states this needs to happen in

[Penguin907]

As long as there's strong legal recourse for the property owner if randos go on their property, damage, or litter while "corner crossing" it seems ok. Without private property rights we've got nothing, so I'm hesitant to call this some big win.

[Dtrkyman]

Hopefully the guys can now sue the landowner for harassment!  I see a lot of confrontations at corners this fall!

Has nothing to do with private property rights, has to do with land owners thinking they can buy property and get sole rights to public property, they advertise it when it is for sale, x amount of acre ranch with exclusive access to public property, see it all the time, the sellers basically include it in the value of the land.

[GobbleNut]

Has nothing to do with private property rights, has to do with land owners thinking they can buy property and get sole rights to public property...

Absolutely!  Infringement of property rights goes both ways. Just as there are laws that protect private property rights, the same should apply to public property rights. The fact that it took so long for ruling to be finalized is just a testament to how long the public has been getting the shaft when it comes to this sort of thing.

A hundred or more years of landowners claiming they owned the "air space" over these corners?!  What a friggin' joke! This ruling should have happened decades ago! 

[OJR]

Hopefully the guys can now sue the landowner for harassment!  I see a lot of confrontations at corners this fall!

Has nothing to do with private property rights, has to do with land owners thinking they can buy property and get sole rights to public property, they advertise it when it is for sale, x amount of acre ranch with exclusive access to public property, see it all the time, the sellers basically include it in the value of the land.

Here is part of a recent listing for the Pitchfork Ranch that is for sale in Wyoming....

The ranch, at $67 million and 96,000 acres, is the most expensive listing in the state right now, Anson said, and the historic property has already attracted interested buyers.

The acreage includes 13,886 deeded acres on the ranch, which are dispersed with state and BLM leased acreage. The land also connects to two Forest Service permits that amount to 44,984 acres. State land makes up 31,600 acres, and BLM ground is the remaining 5,645 acres.

Of the 96,000 acres, 82,114 is public land that the public can't access.

[GobbleNut]

Of the 96,000 acres, 82,114 is public land that the public can't access.

Yep, it is a sore spot for many of us.  Around here, some of us have advocated for years that any public land that is not accessible to the public is automatically closed to all access by anybody...or at least all hunting. That would maybe stop some of that crap. ...So far, nobody is listening. I wonder why? (Not really, I already know why) 

[joey46]

The lack of access to millions of acres of BLM land has been a national
disgrace. 

[eggshell]

Is this mostly a western issue. I don't know of any conflicts like this in Ohio, or at least I have never encountered them. I know back in the 80s Ohio DNR bought up some land parcels that were land locked, but I believe they bought right-of-ways or easements into them too. I know they did for some, because I was involved with it. I also encountered a farmer who tried to buffalo hunters accessing one because the easement was through his pasture. It didn't take long to straighten that out either. That real estate add is amazing, they are listing land they don't even own. I confess to being blind to this, but I agree it robbery from the public. Someone is getting paid somewhere....

[10th Legionaire]

Odds are Iron Bar will appeal, if they haven't already. There is plenty on western hunter chatter about this on the Rokslide forum conservation page.

Hopefully it's a win for public access. Probably a long row to hoe though.

[POk3s]

Odds are Iron Bar will appeal, if they haven't already. There is plenty on western hunter chatter about this on the Rokslide forum conservation page.

Hopefully it's a win for public access. Probably a long row to hoe though.

This was the latest round of appeals. If they appeal any further it becomes a Supreme Court issue, the way I understand it. If the supreme court follows all the other rulings, well then, we're all in great shape.

Just as long as everybody knows to cross at the corner marker. Don't cross where onx says is the corner, don't cross "kind of close". Cross right at the marker. 

[Dtrkyman]

In my younger days I would have brought a pole vault to hunt out here!

[10th Legionaire]

Odds are Iron Bar will appeal, if they haven't already. There is plenty on western hunter chatter about this on the Rokslide forum conservation page.

Hopefully it's a win for public access. Probably a long row to hoe though.

This was the latest round of appeals. If they appeal any further it becomes a Supreme Court issue, the way I understand it. If the supreme court follows all the other rulings, well then, we're all in great shape.

Just as long as everybody knows to cross at the corner marker. Don't cross where onx says is the corner, don't cross "kind of close". Cross right at the marker. 

Regarding the rulings, from what I understand you are correct. I also "read on the internet" that if they haven't already majority of the Supreme Court agrees with the lower court they may not even hear it. So the issue may be decided but IDK?

[Treerooster]

Just as long as everybody knows to cross at the corner marker. Don't cross where onx says is the corner, don't cross "kind of close". Cross right at the marker. 

And where might that be. Some may be visible/obvious but I would think most aren't. Then you have to walk around looking for it. Then you have to be careful not to step on the private that you don't quite know where it is at. Fence (if there is one) is just a fence, not a marker.