OMG What Has Turkey hunting come to!

[Penguin907]

Technology is ruining the outdoors. Drones in turkey hunting reminds me of forward facing sonar in bass fishing.

[quavers59]

 What a Zoo indeed!

[onegunhunter]

I often wonder how many of todays hotshots would have faired in the 60's when I started out......No 3 1/2" shells, not turkey choke tubes, no threaded barrels, no camo guns or clothing! I still hunt the old ways on my land! Ima all for progress but drones is going to far!

[eggshell]

I often wonder how many of todays hotshots would have faired in the 60's when I started out......No 3 1/2" shells, not turkey choke tubes, no threaded barrels, no camo guns or clothing! I still hunt the old ways on my land! Ima all for progress but drones is going to far!

I started the same way and you are correct, many birds that are killed today would have walked away back in those early days. I remember hunting with my standard full choke 20 ga and my max range was 25 to 30 yards. I learned a very hard lesson that any bird beyond 25 yards was a hard kill with 2 3/4 regular magnum #4 shot shells (basically high brass pheasant loads today). I know I let many birds walk away that would be dead today. It's funny that today we discuss the pros and cons of extended range shells and guns, using new techniques as unfair. Go back 50 years and the same would be true for just our average gun and gear today. We didn't even have mouth calls until the mid 70s. The one difference I see is that back then everyone embraced new gear and tech more. When your stuck with limited resources you actually are happy with new tools to make you more efficient. I was beyond thrilled when I got my first turkey gun with screw in choke tubes, a 3" chamber and double X copper plated shot. Suddenly a whole lot more birds started dying. Maybe that actually makes a point.

[sasquatch1]

Gotta love the #doitforthegram crowd getting into hunting


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[Marc]

I often wonder how many of todays hotshots would have faired in the 60's when I started out......No 3 1/2" shells, not turkey choke tubes, no threaded barrels, no camo guns or clothing! I still hunt the old ways on my land! Ima all for progress but drones is going to far!

I started the same way and you are correct, many birds that are killed today would have walked away back in those early days. I remember hunting with my standard full choke 20 ga and my max range was 25 to 30 yards. I learned a very hard lesson that any bird beyond 25 yards was a hard kill with 2 3/4 regular magnum #4 shot shells (basically high brass pheasant loads today). I know I let many birds walk away that would be dead today. It's funny that today we discuss the pros and cons of extended range shells and guns, using new techniques as unfair. Go back 50 years and the same would be true for just our average gun and gear today. We didn't even have mouth calls until the mid 70s. The one difference I see is that back then everyone embraced new gear and tech more. When your stuck with limited resources you actually are happy with new tools to make you more efficient. I was beyond thrilled when I got my first turkey gun with screw in choke tubes, a 3" chamber and double X copper plated shot. Suddenly a whole lot more birds started dying. Maybe that actually makes a point.

It ain't gonna'get better from here...

We are raising an increasingly entitled society who more and more feel entitled to instantaneous success with little to no effort with constant stimulation.  If tech was developed that could show them the exact location of every turkey in the state, they would use it...  As would many others.  Success without achievement.

Shells and chokes with optics capable killing further than I can see, extremely realistic decoys, fans, etc...  Camouflage shooting tents &  Apps that show us every inch of huntable ground...  Who then post everything (including an 80 yard shot)...

Granted, I am using some of this myself... So I cannot throw too many stones...

But a couple years ago, there was a poll for duck hunting in California.  Keep electronic spinning wing decoys, and lose 1/3 of the season with smaller bag limits, or eliminate the decoys and keep season lenght and bag limits...  I was shocked that most hunters opted to keep the electronics over more birds and more time in the field???

[sasquatch1]

But a couple years ago, there was a poll for duck hunting in California.  Keep electronic spinning wing decoys, and lose 1/3 of the season with smaller bag limits, or eliminate the decoys and keep season lenght and bag limits...  I was shocked that most hunters opted to keep the electronics over more birds and more time in the field???
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That is just insane that people would choose easy success over MORE opportunity


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[Penguin907]

But a couple years ago, there was a poll for duck hunting in California.  Keep electronic spinning wing decoys, and lose 1/3 of the season with smaller bag limits, or eliminate the decoys and keep season lenght and bag limits...  I was shocked that most hunters opted to keep the electronics over more birds and more time in the field???

That is just insane that people would choose easy success over MORE opportunity


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Seems exactly like I'd expect from California.

[Fullfan]

What the OP said happen, sounds like where we hunt in Missouri. It has been bad the last 6-8
years.

[KHNC]

A relative of the guy we hunt on, in another county, owns it. I am sure they have no clue it's being abused like this, but they are about to to get told. I will even volunteer to post it for them. They don't live close to it and have no caretaker, so it has become the wild wild west show. ATVs are trashing it as well. It's sad, because it's a nice property and it has birds on it. I am just hesitant to start a ruckus being an out of stater, but the guy we hunt on is a very good friend and I feel I have to tell him. Some of that stuff used to go on around here, but some of us banded together and shut it down. It took a couple people getting arrested, but when they discovered there would be consequences the crap stopped. At least it moved somewhere else. Idiots don't go away they just move.

Kentucky is the epitome of trespassers , thieves and poachers. Especially on the public archery properties. I dont hunt Kentucky anymore. I filled my walls with their bucks from 2001-2022. Then I let them have it back after the last trip. lol. Just wasnt worth it anymore.

[eggshell]

KHNC it depends on what area your in, but that is a true statement in a lot of areas, especially areas that are predominately private....it's a lawless state in many of those areas

[High plains drifter]

Technology is ruining the outdoors. Drones in turkey hunting reminds me of forward facing sonar in bass fishing.

l look . Yeah I've seen out-of-state people in some really remote places that I go to, and it's technology that's putting them there. Thumbs down.

[Timmer]

Very sad.  There are plenty of people now days that don't have respect for people, property, or the animals they hunt.  I just purchased land and I'll be policing it like Area 51! 

[quavers59]

  Since 2020 and the Chinese Virus- the Public Lands from what,I have seen are just drawing many more people.