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Realism / Calling

Started by Greg Massey, March 08, 2025, 10:16:44 AM

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Greg Massey

Do you feel realism is important in calling gobblers / hens?  Do you practice cadence and realism with your calls?

Do you feel calling isn't that important at all or do you feel realism isn't needed ...

Does realism in your calling give you a better chance in bagging your gobbler

Soft Calling ?   
Loud Calling ?

arkrem870

Sounding realistic - cadence etc is very important. Every turkey is different and you've got to adjust your calling accordingly. Also the set up is more crucial than the calling. I've hunted turkeys all over and though they are all different they have the same tendencies which you learn to exploit through experience.
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Tom007

Each year, I call in some lone hens. I love engaging with them, trying to imitate their every sound. This is where I learned to mimic sounds on the mouth diaphragms you just don't experience very often. I believe that a hot gobbler will come to mediocre, non-realistic calling when he's lonely and ready. I do think that realistic calling will help in harvesting the mature 3-4 year olds. This is just my opinion from my experiences in the turkey woods....

zelmo1

Different personalities are a huge variable. The same unhuntable turkey can change his tune at any given time depending on his mood. My 2 cents is that realism is important, calling and set up. My priorities are:
1) location
2) set up ( including decoys )
3) calling

boatpaddle

Realism is what each turkey hunter should strive for with any call, they use...

Part of your realism should include, volume, cadence, number of notes, how you start & finish your calling, & learning where to call from.

Understanding what your calling is saying to the turkeys is paramount to being real.

JMHO...

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paboxcall

Quote from: boatpaddle on March 08, 2025, 10:34:45 AMRealism is what each turkey hunter should strive for with any call, they use...

Part of your realism should include, volume, cadence, number of notes, how you start & finish your calling, & learning where to call from.

Understanding what your calling is saying to the turkeys is paramount to being real.

JMHO...

Good advice here.

Volume, probably the most overlooked aspect IMO. Hunting public land, hear far too many people calling far too loudly, too long, and too often.
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bwhana

Spot on!  Soft calling kills more birds, especially on pressured public ground.

Yoder409

Quote from: boatpaddle on March 08, 2025, 10:34:45 AMRealism is what each turkey hunter should strive for with any call, they use...




This.

#1 in my book is set-up.  It's way easier to make a gobbler come somewhere he WANTS to come to.

But, all things set-up being equal,  realism in calling will kill more birds than "OK calling".

It's really pretty amazing some of the noises I've heard guys make in the woods with turkey calls.   :goofball:   And, this, coming from a guy who is in NO WAY a competition level caller.  But, SHEESH !!!   ::)
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The good Lord ain't made a gobbler I can't kill.  I just gotta be there at the right time.....  on the day he wants to die.

Treerooster

Sometimes realism is important and sometimes it ain't. You don't know until it's over, and sometimes not even then. I'd rather be realistic so then I've got it covered.

Calling turmeys is so much than how one sounds though. You sound just like a real turkey with different types of calls?..... congratulations you just graduated Junior High. Lots to learn yet.

ScottTaulbee

I pride myself on being obsessive with having the correct cadence, rhythm, and being as realistic as possible with my calls. If I haven't spent hundreds of hours with a call inside, outside, and in different conditions, with recordings of how it sounds in all of the different places and weather conditions, it doesn't go in my vest or in the woods when it's for real. But it's for my enjoyment and my driving factor of turkey hunting has always been to sound as close to a hen as I can and have a conversation with the turkeys, not just make noise.

With that being said your question was do I think it matters and my opinion is no. I have called in a lot of turkeys when I was in my beginning stages and I see a lot of you tube videos and know a few folks that when they hit a call, it sounds like a chicken being raped by a duck and they kill turkeys. I think the most important thing is to have any ample amount of turkeys to hunt and set up where they want to go to begin with. Anything after that is just for fun for us.


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1iagobblergetter

Great topic Greg!
I think being mindful of ones possible frustration& if a person is hunting all day and not hearing or seeing anything possibly boredom and that affecting cadence, realism,& even over calling...
Just something especially for newer guys starting to think about...

1iagobblergetter

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Quote from: ScottTaulbee on March 08, 2025, 11:24:50 AMI pride myself on being obsessive with having the correct cadence, rhythm, and being as realistic as possible with my calls. If I haven't spent hundreds of hours with a call inside, outside, and in different conditions, with recordings of how it sounds in all of the different places and weather conditions, it doesn't go in my vest or in the woods when it's for real. But it's for my enjoyment and my driving factor of turkey hunting has always been to sound as close to a hen as I can and have a conversation with the turkeys, not just make noise.

With that being said your question was do I think it matters and my opinion is no. I have called in a lot of turkeys when I was in my beginning stages and I see a lot of you tube videos and know a few folks that when they hit a call, it sounds like a chicken being raped by a duck and they kill turkeys. I think the most important thing is to have any ample amount of turkeys to hunt and set up where they want to go to begin with. Anything after that is just for fun for us.


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Just curious....Do you really think all of that practice doesn't help kill more turkeys? I think you are cutting😁 yourself short!
I politely disagree unless I misunderstood something...
I think half azz calling and cadence will still kill turkeys,but not nearly as many...
Knowing when to call and when not to, softer or louder all of that comes into play of how successful one might be...
I do agree set up is very important and of course being where turkeys frequent adds a whole bunch to success...

Tom007

Another rule I use on most turkey's is "Silence is Golden". The few that friends that have hunted with me are shocked as to how quiet and infrequent I call to a responding Tom. Yes, there have been times when I hammered him cause he was super hot. Most times, I get him so curious in his search for me when I'm quiet, he can't take it and finally commits. This seems to work on the real Old Guys that have experienced hunters over-calling to them. Just my experiences over the years....

g8rvet

Few added thoughts. 

I do not think a realistic cadence, sound or volume ever hurt a turkey hunt, so why not strive for it?

Being quiet is best, unless it is not, and only the gobbler you encounter that day will tell you which is right. Don't be scared to listen to the gobbler. Some of the ugliest calls I have ever  heard were live hens, but they still had the cadence.

The absolute best way to hear every turkey sound made is to hunt (or be around) turkeys in the fall.  Sitting close to a flock on the limb and hearing them interact when they hit the ground is a crash course in turkey talk.
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paboxcall

Quote from: g8rvet on March 08, 2025, 12:41:57 PMThe absolute best way to hear every turkey sound made is to hunt (or be around) turkeys in the fall.  Sitting close to a flock on the limb and hearing them interact when they hit the ground is a crash course in turkey talk.

:agreed: 100%
A quality paddle caller will most run itself.  It just needs someone to carry it around the woods. Yoder409

Over time...they come to learn how little air a good yelper actually requires. ChesterCopperpot

Sit down wrong, and you're beat. Jim Spencer                          Don't go this year where Youtubers went last year.