No Joy in the Land of Oz

[Neill_Prater]

"Unsuccessful" is not a word you want see on your nonresident turkey draw notification. I guess for only the second time  in approximately 35 years, I won't be hunting Kansas this season.

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[arkrem870]

I didn't draw either. I own a farm in Kansas and can't even hunt my own property. Glad folks are having their fun with these draws because it's killing me. I have drawn one permit all spring and everyone drew it that applied. I'll just keep adapting and overcoming until these other states organize draws.

[deerhunt1988]

Just gonna get more and more common.

[ruination]

I didn't draw either. I own a farm in Kansas and can't even hunt my own property. Glad folks are having their fun with these draws because it's killing me. I have drawn one permit all spring and everyone drew it that applied. I'll just keep adapting and overcoming until these other states organize draws.

Lease it daily to OOSers and go hunt somewhere else with the money.  I'm a problem solver.

[Tail Feathers]

Just gonna get more and more common.

And that will come pretty quickly as states without draws will begin to see a big increase in OOS'ers.  Yeh, I'm in that group and I hate to see it coming.

[Badger]

Unsuccessful for Kansas as well. 1st time in 15 or 16 yrs.

[Cut N Run]

To all who missed their draw, sorry to hear it. It stinks to get shut out.

You should consider yourselves fortunate though, there's a 38,000 acre public land/reservoir less than 10 miles from my house in central N.C. that I've put in to hunt for 12 years straight and haven't been drawn yet.  There's another 52,000 acre gameland/reservoir less than 30 miles away that I got drawn for once and we had record rainfall for the entire 3 days I was drawn to hunt. The creek I needed to cross was a river & I couldn't get to the intended area to hunt.  The turkeys were sitting tight and it wasn't worth getting wet over.

I've got a few small farms and pieces of private where I can hunt, but they are extremely hit or miss. There's more hunting pressure around two of those farms than there is on the public land.

Jim

[Notsoyoungturk]

There is something terribly wrong when a landowner cannot hunt their on land during an open hunting season.  Period.  End of Story.

[Gooserbat]

Lots of other options. 

[Kansan]

I am sorry to hear that, friend. In better news, bird numbers are up substantially in many parts of the state this year. I finally have a good crop of turkeys around to hunt, for the first time in a while.

[bbcoach]

I didn't draw either. I own a farm in Kansas and can't even hunt my own property. Glad folks are having their fun with these draws because it's killing me. I have drawn one permit all spring and everyone drew it that applied. I'll just keep adapting and overcoming until these other states organize draws.

There is something terribly wrong when a landowner cannot hunt their on land during an open hunting season.  Period.  End of Story.

A buddy of mine, who guides in Kansas, told me in order to be considered a Resident/landowner you have to have more than 80 acres.  Anything less than 80, you are a non-resident, and you must apply for the draw as a non-resident.  Is this True?  Just paying taxes, on less than 80 acres, doesn't get you a FREE pass as I understand it.

[arkrem870]

I didn't draw either. I own a farm in Kansas and can't even hunt my own property. Glad folks are having their fun with these draws because it's killing me. I have drawn one permit all spring and everyone drew it that applied. I'll just keep adapting and overcoming until these other states organize draws.

There is something terribly wrong when a landowner cannot hunt their on land during an open hunting season.  Period.  End of Story.

A buddy of mine, who guides in Kansas, told me in order to be considered a Resident/landowner you have to have more than 80 acres.  Anything less than 80, you are a non-resident, and you must apply for the draw as a non-resident.  Is this True?  Just paying taxes, on less than 80 acres, doesn't get you a FREE pass as I understand it.

That's the rule for a non resident hunt own land deer tag.

There is no hunt own land turkey tag. All non resident landowners must draw to turkey hunt under the new regulations.

[Zobo]

Who made up these regulations, the scarecrow and the tin man?

[bbcoach]

Who made up these regulations, the scarecrow and the tin man?

Nope, the Wicked Witches and their both dead!

To me, this doesn't make ANY sense at all.  If you are a landowner and are paying Property taxes to any State, then you should be considered a resident of that State and be allowed to get a tag and hunt (Landowners Preference).  You are ultimately helping to pay the salary of the elected officials and Wildlife Managers.  All non-residents would be put in a drawing for whatever tags are leftover.  Don't lump Tax paying landowners in ANY drawing that includes Non-residents.   

[arkrem870]

Non residents hunters have no representation. They are the first to get blamed and the first to get axed. The Kansas livestock association just introduced a bill to remove the non resident landowner deer tag when non resident land owners applying for hunt own land deer tags account for approx .3% (point three) of total acreage in Kansas.

Hunters and specifically non residents are under attack and facing lost opportunities right now and more in the future. It's wasn't peta or the libs pushing it.....it's our fellow hunters.