OMG What Has Turkey hunting come to!

[NCL]

Joey brings up a good point, in that property damage can be based on the value of the item damaged. So shooting down a drone would be vandalism, may be called by a different name in other states, but here the degree of offense would depend on the value. So a $100 drone may only be a misdemeanor whereas a $2000 drone may be a felony. I have not looked at a penal code in years so I do not know what the elements for vandalism is currently.

[Missed mallards]

I read this post last night and began to think about how tech has influenced the outdoors.

I'll be the first to admit I can't find a turkey to save my life so the drone idea, well....

No, daddy would not agree and my pappy would probably break his foot off in my rear as that's cheating and the spring game is a sacred game. Or use to be and how I still play it.

But... drones to locate turkeys and deer. Cell cameras, or trail cameras in general, front facing sonar (fish), mapping software, reaping, tss, super full chokes, red dots, and and and

It's not about the sport anymore, all about the glory of the kill. Immediate success you could say.

Kind of sucks. But, it's legal and some tactics that are being used rape the resources. Tech has changed the game and the new game is what's being played, sadly.


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[10th Legionaire]

"Tech" has been going on for a long time. Last year I read the book Lord of the Flies about a bunch of rich guys chasing the world record tarpon on a fly rod down in Hommasassa, Fl. The center character they chronicled is a stock broker from Connecticut. He was using his private plane to locate pods of fish. The chase started in 1977.

[joey46]

Nice thing about this forum is the differing opinions.  Hunt legally and follow the bag limits is usually good enough for most.  My exception is E Bikes which I consider the spawn of the devil. LOL. Hope everyone has an enjoyable season. 

[Gooserbat]

The biggest problem i see is the encroachment on your friends space.  And id maybe shot at the drone but im a bad shot so it would probably crashed on its owne.

[Zobo]

If you feel the need to use a drone to help you shoot a turkey,  you are a LOSER and not a turkey hunter. Period, end of story, case closed.

[GobbleNut]

Not sure how other states deal with the drone issue, but it has been illegal here to use a drone to aid in hunting or locating game during any season for which you have a tag. In some instances, the use of drones also falls under our game harassment laws. If other states don't have those kinds of regulations, they obviously should.

Here's another curiosity in the "rules for thee but not for me" saga in our society. Here in the west, the corner crossing debate rages on and on. The entire argument landowners have used for stopping folks from getting to public land is that they own the "air space" above these corners for 300 feet above their property...and hence, people crossing at corners are illegally crossing because of their "air space" ownership.

Yet, when it comes to drones flying over OUR properties, we have no such rights. Shoot down a drone that invades your "air space" over your property and you will most likely be in trouble. ...Sometimes (no, often) I wonder about "human intelligence"...      

[arkrem870]

Just need a drone that can fly you over the corner crossing.

[Marc]

I read this post last night and began to think about how tech has influenced the outdoors.

I'll be the first to admit I can't find a turkey to save my life so the drone idea, well....

No, daddy would not agree and my pappy would probably break his foot off in my rear as that's cheating and the spring game is a sacred game. Or use to be and how I still play it.

But... drones to locate turkeys and deer. Cell cameras, or trail cameras in general, front facing sonar (fish), mapping software, reaping, tss, super full chokes, red dots, and and and

It's not about the sport anymore, all about the glory of the kill. Immediate success you could say.

Kind of sucks. But, it's legal and some tactics that are being used rape the resources. Tech has changed the game and the new game is what's being played, sadly.

Personally, I feel that all electronics for the take of game should be banned from hunting (excluding clothing such as electric socks)...  No motorized decoys or electronic calls...  Game cameras removed a week before season.  No drone flights during the season AT ALL (also relegated to the week before season starts).

It would be difficult to enforce much of that, as Bob who does not hunt, flies his drone, and then lets JimmyTurkeyHunter view the footage...

I will most likely utilize a drone at some point...  Get a birds-eye view of the duck club, and allow us to make changes to the habitat and blinds...  Get a better idea of the landscape being hunted for upland and turkey prior to the season, and on private property make changes to improve habitat and wildlife movement into the area, etc...

I am admittedly very thankful for technology in the improvement of hunting clothing...  Lighter weight, less bulky, more warm, MORE DRY, compact blind heaters in the blind (duck hunting), etc...  Being comfortable in the field allows for a more enjoyable experience, and I would argue also allows for more success in the field.  I take ZERO issue with advancements in clothing...

I am also not opposed to improvements in vehicle use (such as E-bikes, electric carts, etc.) especially on private land, or even gated public land with expansive areas...  Use of vehicle use will ultimately create the need for updated regulation, and likely more limited use on some areas though.  A 600 acre are of public land should probably not allow E-bikes or carts.  A 5,000 acre unit with one gate should probably allow such use to a limited degree.

[CT Spur Collector]

Sad stuff.

[1iagobblergetter]

If you feel the need to use a drone to help you shoot a turkey,  you are a LOSER and not a turkey hunter. Period, end of story, case closed.

I agree! Im not a fan myself of trail cams deer or turkey hunting either!
Isn't it ok to just be surprised at what you end up with or don't!
It seems like people are always looking for instant success!

[Marc]

Re-reading my previous post...  To be clear, I am not opposed to utilizing a drone to get a view/perspective of the area to be hunting, as long as it is NOT DURING THE SEASON.

For our duck club, it is a great way to evaluate areas that should be disked, and to view productive, as well as unproductive habitat...

Drones should NOT be allowed during the hunting season at all in my opinion...  I would argue the same for game cameras.  Others will disagree...

I feel that apps such as OnX have probably opened more areas to more hunters, while also creating for more issues for hunting than any other technology.  The benefit being, that you can now find large areas of potential hunting from home...  The downside being that other people can now easily find those hidden away spots that previously took time and leg-work to find...

For me, apps such as OnX have been a net negative...  Lots of areas I hunted previously with no pressure, are now full of hunters (to a point that most are no longer huntable for me).

[High plains drifter]

I just have to vent. My buddy has hunted Ky the last 4 days and today went to a new area we found. That turned out to be a zoo. One of the landowners we hunt on got us permission on this new property. We thought, "Oh boy new ground". I think it's in an estate and so no one is watching it. When he pulls in there's a guy getting ready to go and my buddy talks to him and he does not have permission, but is going anyway, as everyone hunts here. That's a bad start, but they decide the property is  big enough to split and go opposite ways. My buddy sets up on a bird and it's working and then put put and silence. He hears 4-5 more and trys to work a couple, but no luck. They just shut up on him.  Suddenly he hears a buzzing and looks up to see a drone hovering over him. Now he is po'd and decides to leave. He runs into two kids combo mushroom hunting and carrying guns in case they see a turkey. When he gets back to the truck there's a guy setting by his car running the drone to spot turkeys to stalk. Then the other guy comes out and joins the conversation and he said he almost got three, but they all spooked from the fan. He was basically trying to reap them by just displaying a fan and walking at them full up right. He said one had an 11 inch beard and weighed 33 lbs, but it spooked. NOw that guys is good. The guy with the drone chimed in yeah he'd seen a couple 30 pounders on the drone camera. You got to be frigging kidding me! Needless to say my buddy baled and called me and said no way are we going back to that zoo. What in the living "H" get into people's heads. This is an good example of why I dislike the youtubers showing reaping and other "new" ways of hunting. Go ahead someone and call me an elitist and I'll gladly wear the tag if this is what we've come to. As I said Oh MY Gosh....

that's crazy!

[Moore]

Dang that is crazy, I bet in the near future they would be laws against using drones. Here in MN they all ready did, thank the lord.

[High plains drifter]

I don't consider it elitism. There are certain rules to the game. You don't shoot ducks on the water you don't shoot fawns or deer at night etc. There are rules to the Turkey hunting game. Anyone that says otherwise is not a true Turkey hunter but a wannabe. If you can't call him to the gun and too the gun means 40 yards are less you ain't much of a Turkey hunter to begin with. If you need some toy helicopter to find a gobbler, or use anything else to short cut finding a gobbler you a 2 bit hack. If that offends it's supposed to.

yep.agree