Todays tight chokes almost mandate an optic on turkey Guns. It allows you to pinpoint and zero in your POI. Apple size patterns at real close ranges require patient, perfectly placed shots. When I have the luxury of seeing a Tom approaching me, I take my shot at 25/30 yards. That gives me a soccer ball size pattern allowing a "head-Bob" and still giving me a solid, lethal hit. If he pops up at 10 yards, be patient, concentrate and wait for a steady, clear neck and head shot.....