I had to have my neck fused last week. For those of you who've had this done, did it affect which gun you use? I've used an 870 SM for several years. I shoot handloaded 3" 2 oz load of tss. Recoil isn't terrible, but if I have to turn and shoot at an awkward angle, it can jerk you around pretty good. I'm worried that I may have to get another gun in smaller ga.
I have not had it done but I know one of my buddies had it done. It took him about a year to get right. I would say it couldn't hurt and would be wise to go down to a 20 gauge with TSS. No sense in injuring yourself which could further prohibit you hunting at all.
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Wow, I wish you well. I like the 20 gauge advice, you also can get high tech recoil pads that will help you further on any gun you chose. Be well, be safe....
Friend of mine had it and he shot a 1187 for years. But that said follow the advise of your doctor. 20 gauge might be in order. Good luck and God bless
Haven't had that surgery, and I wish you a fast and full recovery.
For consideration, I'm shooting a 20 gauge pump loaded with 1 3/8th oz. of TSS in a 2.75" shell. Recoil is significantly less than my 12 and its 3" loads of 2 oz. of #7 Hevi-13.
Put that 2.75" 20 gauge TSS load through an autoloader, and should be even softer. In no way am I undergunned compared to the bigger 12 gauge. As a matter of fact, the 20 gauge load out patterns the Hevi #7s by 10 - 12%.
Go lighter and smaller, don't take any chances with your health.
I haven't had my neck fused but I have had my lower back L4 L5 fused due to a laminectomy about 6 years ago. My L4 L5 vertebra was squeezing my spinal cord and nerves causing sciotica down both legs. My surgery was a success. I can tell I have some limited mobility, along with tightness in the area of the fusion but it has relieved the numbness and pain in my back and legs. My suggestion to you is follow the Doctor's instructions. Take it easy. Don't do anything that will compromise your complete recovery. If the Doctor did his job and you do yours, you will make a complete recovery except for some minor mobility issues in your neck. My advice to you is, you don't need to compromise your health and mobility with the recoil from a 12 gauge when a 20 with TSS will reduce your risk of reinjury and be able to kill a bird at 40 and beyond. You have a few months of recovery ahead of you, some physical therapy and a few months more and the season will be upon you. Plenty of time to make a change should you decide to. I was in Wally World last week and they had 2 Camo 870's in 20 gauge that would fit your build. Here's wishing you a Great Recovery and Wonderful 2021 Spring season.
I would take the advice , and use a 20 ga. with TSS , you can kill just as many turkeys with the 20 ga. I hope you continue to get well...prayers
Hate to hear that Mitch and we will be praying for you. I cannot really give much input from the medical standpoint as I have never been in those shoes. I will reassure you that if you drop to a 20 ga or lower you will have the full effective range of that 870, especially if you continue handloading TSS, and you will not take as much punishment with the right gun. Hope all goes well!
Broke my C2 last year in June also knowin as the "hangman" break..have not had any issues other then having my head turned really hard for a extended period of time..I sneezed one day and jerked around some how and felt that pretty good.
I was told 18 months full recovery
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My Winchester SX3 is the softest shooting 20 gauge I've ever shot.
Definitely go light recoiling and TSS will allow you to go easily to 20 or even smaller gauge if you want.
Take care, do the rehab and get better soon!
God bless you my brother. We are all thrilled you will be out with us no matter what gun you chose. Be safe, get well....
I had mine done in 1997 my doctor also put a plate in also and I didn't have to wear a neck brace. I followed my doctor's instructions and that I know of have not had any problems shooting my guns. I have always been a 20 gauge guy although I have a couple 12's and deer rifles shoot with no problem. I can't remember how long it was before my doctor would let me shoot but it didn't seem like it was very long.
I had it in the 90s and had no problems with the heavy 12s with either shoulder. The problem occurred when I got my pacemaker and the doctor forbade me from shooting from the left shoulder and some wise guy told the turkeys and they all became 3 o'clock turkeys.
If your going to have to buy a 20 better start looking. Guns and ammo are in short supply around here.
Quote from: Parrot Head on July 16, 2020, 07:32:34 PM
If your going to have to buy a 20 better start looking. Guns and ammo are in short supply around here.
Or just shoot a 12 ga with a lightweight load. A 20 ga with a, let's say, 1.5 oz load doesn't have less recoil than a 12 ga load of equal weight and velocity unless the 20 ga gun happens to weigh more than the 12 ga one. Usually they weigh less and, as a result, have more recoil.
Some of my 20's, while a pleasure to carry, punch me. You may not "feel it" during the excitement of shooting a turkey, but your neck might.
I've had 3-4 and 5-6 done. After following all the drs. orders till they both released me, I haven't had any problems shooting a 3" 870 with the old nitro ammo. Never had any problems. I did put limbsaver recoil pads on all my turkey guns. Since I got a pacemaker last year, no more swapping shoulders for me either. I am going to try an 870 3" 20ga with Tss and an IC .555 choke next year. I'm hoping it will make safe queens out of my 1100 and 870 12 ga magnums.
Rick
I second bbcoach, I had L4 through S1 fused after breaking my back on the ambulance. I switched to the 20 with tungsten shot. I dropped from 3006 to a 6.5 creedmoor for deer. They work, I just don't have all the recoil, I was told by my surgeon "if you tear out the screws and plates I might not be able to fix it again", you know what I believed him. The year after I had it done, I sold that 3006 and hit the woods with an AR, dropped a 200 lb 8 point in his tracks in Ga at a hair over 150 yds. Took it as a sign that smaller will work, just not as far.
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Thank y'all for the input and get well wishes and prayers. It means a lot and I believe in the power of prayer. Like a few of y'all, I had L4-S1 fused also back in 2017 and I still have a lot of trouble with it. Dr says that scar tissue is on the nerve that is causing the pain in my butt cheeks, groin and down legs. I hope this one in my neck does better than that one did. I'm gonna ask Dr about it n see what he suggests. If I need to downsize, I'll do it. Again, thank y'all for the input on this.
Mitch Hallman
Mitch, you have to follow your doctor's instructions. It was easy for me as my doctor was my first cousin and we have talked 2 or 3 times a day for years. He has caught me with a TIA on two occasions. It is a bitch to be unable to speak.
Yessir, I'm definitely gonna do what he says. I hope you're feeling better.
Really feeling good sans the aging process. I love the trough caller; just unwieldy. However I do take it out a time or two days a season. It certainly makes a terrific and unexpected Kee Kee Run.
I had that same surgery back in 1991 and have been good to go since. It did limit my range of motion side to side and looking straight up. Definitely worth it to correct the issues I was having. Before surgery, several times a day it would feel like I hit the funny bone in my left arm from the nerve shorting out because of collapsed discs.
When I asked my doctor if I could shoot turkey loads from my shotgun post surgery, he said; "Once you heal, you'll be able to shoot whatever you did in the past." He was right too. I even played hockey for years after. I do the daily neck exercises to keep the muscles strong. I also killed one of my lifetime best bucks about 10 days after I got clearance from the Doctor to shoot again.
Don't try to rush healing though. I got so tired of being limited to what I could do and watching TV (no internet then). I wasn't allowed to take walks in the woods for fear of falling and injuring myself. It seemed like I was a prisoner to the house. They were right though, once I healed the world was at my door. I'm thinking healing thoughts for you. You thought hunting turkeys was a test of your patience... Hang in there, man. It will get better.
Jim
Quote from: silvestris on July 21, 2020, 02:17:24 AM
Really feeling good sans the aging process. I love the trough caller; just unwieldy. However I do take it out a time or two days a season. It certainly makes a terrific and unexpected Kee Kee Run.
Those troughs are a bit large and they will occasionally let out a great kee kee. ????. I really like calling soft on those. Glad you are doing good.
Quote from: Cut N Run on July 21, 2020, 06:54:43 AM
I had that same surgery back in 1991 and have been good to go since. It did limit my range of motion side to side and looking straight up. Definitely worth it to correct the issues I was having. Before surgery, several times a day it would feel like I hit the funny bone in my left arm from the nerve shorting out because of collapsed discs.
When I asked my doctor if I could shoot turkey loads from my shotgun post surgery, he said; "Once you heal, you'll be able to shoot whatever you did in the past." He was right too. I even played hockey for years after. I do the daily neck exercises to keep the muscles strong. I also killed one of my lifetime best bucks about 10 days after I got clearance from the Doctor to shoot again.
Don't try to rush healing though. I got so tired of being limited to what I could do and watching TV (no internet then). I wasn't allowed to take walks in the woods for fear of falling and injuring myself. It seemed like I was a prisoner to the house. They were right though, once I healed the world was at my door. I'm thinking healing thoughts for you. You thought hunting turkeys was a test of your patience... Hang in there, man. It will get better.
Jim
I'm glad to hear it all worked out good for ya. I'm doin some better, I'm actually able to sleep some. It's getting a lil better each day it seems. Thank you for the well wishes!
I had 4-5 5-6 & 6-7 replaced and held together with a metal plate and a bone graft to help heal two and a half years ago. Glad I did! Couldn't shoot firearms for six months. Only thing I've done differently is stop shooting 3 1/2s. I did buy a 20 gauge Compact this year and let me tell you, that little sucker knows how to kick. I didn't buy it for less recoil, I bought it for ease of carrying and maneuvering in the woods. I still shoot my 7mm mag without problems. My doctor reminded me of that quarterback Payton that had his neck done was getting smashed by 300 pound linemen the next season.