Governor Andrew Cuomo is issuing a Death Sentence For Upstate New York
Here is an excelent article on what Cuomo is trying to do now, he is trying to murder those of us in "Upstate" New York by taking our medical equipment.
https://wsyr.iheart.com/featured/bob-lonsberry-syr/content/2020-04-03-governor-andrew-cuomo-is-issuing-a-death-sentence-for-upstate-new-york/?fbclid=IwAR1dgBC-8VWH2JFTiggYcEe4X4QpSxG39Hp9dDkp-Ca_WytaOQKbOi_GYFc
I shared the above article on Facebook and this is my commentary on it and I believe it completely.
Cuomo is a murdering piece of trash, first he murders our unborn, then he murders babies after they are born and now he is sending ARMED TROOPS to murder upstate New York. He is an enemy of the state and should be removed from office. To all those in the National Guard, you swore an oath to protect from all threats foreign and domestic, Cuomo is a domestic terrorist and I urge you to not follow his orders.
Each person enlisting in the National Guard shall sign an enlistment contract and subscribe to the following oath:
"I do hereby acknowledge to have voluntarily enlisted this __ day of ____, 19_, in the ______ National Guard of the State of ______ for a period of __ year(s) under the conditions prescribed by law, unless sooner discharged by proper authority.
"I, ________, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States and of the State of ______ against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to them; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the Governor of ______ and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to law and regulations. So help me God."
The oath may be taken before any officer of the National Guard of the State or Territory, or of Puerto Rico, or the District of Columbia, as the case may be, or before any other person authorized by the law of the jurisdiction concerned to administer oaths of enlistment in the National Guard.
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/32/304
Hitler's Stormtroopers tried to say they were just following orders, it was not a valid excuse for them and it will not be a valid argument for the National Guard either, taking this equipment on Cuomo's orders will be killing people that do not fit into Cuomo's tiny mindset just like Hitler killed the Jew's because they were not good enough for him. don't be Cuomo's Stormtroopers.
And a lot of New Yorkers would still vote for this Moron.
Quote from: guesswho on April 05, 2020, 09:13:41 AM
And a lot of New Yorkers would still vote for this Moron.
Just like IL..... The same idiots that voted him in ,will always vote for him.
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Quote from: guesswho on April 05, 2020, 09:13:41 AM
And a lot of New Yorkers would still vote for this Moron.
Liberalism is a mental disease. That's the only conclusion for their behavior.
Every hunting forum out there has an ample supply of people who know so much more about everything than anyone else.
i suppose every forum does - it's the nature of the beast I guess.
Quote from: guesswho on April 05, 2020, 09:13:41 AM
And a lot of New Yorkers would still vote for this Moron.
Most of them from New York City, we can't outvote them because there are more of them in New York City than there are people in Upstate NY I am all for succession from NYC
Quote from: fallhnt on April 05, 2020, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: guesswho on April 05, 2020, 09:13:41 AM
And a lot of New Yorkers would still vote for this Moron.
Just like IL..... The same idiots that voted him in ,will always vote for him.
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Yea, like they did Obama
Quote from: turkey_slayer on April 05, 2020, 09:37:40 AM
Quote from: guesswho on April 05, 2020, 09:13:41 AM
And a lot of New Yorkers would still vote for this Moron.
Liberalism is a mental disease. That's the only conclusion for their behavior.
I could not agree with you more!
Quote from: spaightlabs on April 05, 2020, 10:31:14 AM
Every hunting forum out there has an ample supply of people who know so much more about everything than anyone else.
i suppose every forum does - it's the nature of the beast I guess.
I am far from knowing more about everything than anything else, but I know when a person is taking care of those that vote him in and is trying to murder those that do not vote for him.
Your best bet is get the heck outta of there and come South. Let the ones that voted for him deal with the consequences of their actions.
The problem with places like New York is that the big cities are filled with whacko libtards, and the populations of those cities outnumber the small towns and country folk who think normally.
Liberalism is indeed a disease, and it's threatening the existence of our country as we know it.
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Liberalism is worse than Covid 19.
I'm starting to call covid-19 the liberal flu because the areas effected most are heavily populated areas/ big cities where the libs like to live on top of each other.
The surrounding areas of Albany, GA is a far cry from big cities and they have been hit extremely hard.
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 05, 2020, 03:43:00 PM
Liberalism is worse than Covid 19.
Amen , this pretty well sums him up... x2
Quote from: timberjack86 on April 05, 2020, 03:35:12 PM
Your best bet is get the heck outta of there and come South. Let the ones that voted for him deal with the consequences of their actions.
Unfortunately getting out is not an option for me. My body is to messed up for that kind of move, I don't have the money to move and have no vehicle and place to go anyway. And no insult to the South meant at all but it is MUCH to hot there for my taste. If I remember my science right when it starts to heat up bacteria and viruses flourish, so the South will be the last place to be in a few months.
Quote from: RutnNStrutn on April 05, 2020, 03:41:32 PM
The problem with places like New York is that the big cities are filled with whacko libtards, and the populations of those cities outnumber the small towns and country folk who think normally.
Liberalism is indeed a disease, and it's threatening the existence of our country as we know it.
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I could not agree more.
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 05, 2020, 03:43:00 PM
Liberalism is worse than Covid 19.
I can certainly see an argument for that.
Quote from: Paulmyr on April 05, 2020, 03:48:24 PM
I'm starting to call covid-19 the liberal flu because the areas effected most are heavily populated areas/ big cities where the libs like to live on top of each other.
Just don't call it the Chinese Flue. lol
Quote from: Sixes on April 05, 2020, 04:29:40 PM
The surrounding areas of Albany, GA is a far cry from big cities and they have been hit extremely hard.
Wonder why they got it so bad. Are they a major travel or port area?
Quote from: Greg Massey on April 05, 2020, 04:47:00 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 05, 2020, 03:43:00 PM
Liberalism is worse than Covid 19.
Amen , this pretty well sums him up... x2
Yep
It's amazing each time some idiot says they're an outdoorsman yet a liberal. I'll never get it. Can't believe they're doing this. Why don't they just hide em and say they got robbed already???
What amazes me is how so many people are willing to give back what our forefathers fought so hard to obtain.
Quote from: Bowguy on April 05, 2020, 04:55:18 PM
It's amazing each time some idiot says they're an outdoorsman yet a liberal. I'll never get it. Can't believe they're doing this. Why don't they just hide em and say they got robbed already???
I think that is going to happen quite a bit, I honestly do anticipate violence to stem from this.
Quote from: 1iagobblergetter on April 05, 2020, 05:14:14 PM
What amazes me is how so many people are willing to give back what our forefathers fought so hard to obtain.
It bothers me greatly, I have a friend that is a hunter, past military personnel, has family in this area, an elderly mother that could end up needing one of the ventilator and still thinks Cuomo is doing nothing wrong and that it is all Trumps fault, it is very bewildering to me.
Out here in the West most people depend on Nat'l Forest and BLM for our activities whether hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, etc. There's one political party that has always advocated privatizing federal lands or turning them over to the states. My state has already sold 40% of the land it was given with statehood. Anyone who enjoys recreation on federal lands should be aware of who advocates selling public land and never vote for them. Most hunters are too stupid to figure that out. New Yorkers who hunt in the Adirondacks are mostly hunting on public lands.
Quote from: idgobble on April 05, 2020, 06:44:14 PM
Out here in the West most people depend on Nat'l Forest and BLM for our activities whether hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, etc. There's one political party that has always advocated privatizing federal lands or turning them over to the states. My state has already sold 40% of the land it was given with statehood. Anyone who enjoys recreation on federal lands should be aware of who advocates selling public land and never vote for them. Most hunters are too stupid to figure that out.
What party would that be? :OGturkeyhead:
Quote from: fallhnt on April 05, 2020, 09:27:10 AM
Quote from: guesswho on April 05, 2020, 09:13:41 AM
And a lot of New Yorkers would still vote for this Moron.
Just like IL..... The same idiots that voted him in ,will always vote for him.
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You guys do understand those idiots live in the city right?
Quote from: idgobble on April 05, 2020, 06:44:14 PM
Out here in the West most people depend on Nat'l Forest and BLM for our activities whether hunting, fishing, camping, hiking, etc. There's one political party that has always advocated privatizing federal lands or turning them over to the states. My state has already sold 40% of the land it was given with statehood. Anyone who enjoys recreation on federal lands should be aware of who advocates selling public land and never vote for them. Most hunters are too stupid to figure that out. New Yorkers who hunt in the Adirondacks are mostly hunting on public lands.
Why would you have a problem with the fed turning land over to the states? I would think the states would use that land how it best serves the citizens in that state. Pretty sure there is one party that believes in states rights and one party that believes in an over bearing federal govt. It's just some people are too stupid to figure it out.
How did this turn into a discussion about state or federal land?
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 05, 2020, 07:10:25 PM
How did this turn into a discussion about state or federal land?
Did you notice posters on this thread making derogatory remarks about liberals (or "libtards") and how they're an idiot if they're a hunter? I've found that most hunters who bitch about "libtards" aren't aware of who wants to keep our public lands out of private hands.
But if anyone wants to start a thread about threats to our public lands I think it would be very educational.
Paulmyr, You asked, "Why would you have a problem with the fed turning land over to the states? I would think the states would use that land how it best serves the citizens in that state. Pretty sure there is one party that believes in states rights and one party that believes in an over bearing federal govt. It's just some people are too stupid to figure it out."
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Once federal lands are turned over to states there is one party that advocates selling those lands. Those federal lands belong to all of us and I hunt them in multiple states. I don't want them sold. I don't want my state's lands sold, either, but that has happened. 40% of it far. Do you know how much your state has sold?
Quote from: idgobble on April 05, 2020, 07:28:24 PM
Paulmyr, You asked, "Why would you have a problem with the fed turning land over to the states? I would think the states would use that land how it best serves the citizens in that state. Pretty sure there is one party that believes in states rights and one party that believes in an over bearing federal govt. It's just some people are too stupid to figure it out."
Once federal lands are turned over to states there is one party that advocates selling those lands. Those federal lands belong to all of us and I hunt them in multiple states. I don't want them sold. I don't want my state's lands sold, either, but that has happened. 40% of it far. Do you know how much your state has sold?
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I know that even if it is not sold it has often been "Leased" to private companies and then the public can not use much of it. I understand that is a big thing in many of the mountain states and I know much of the North County here in NY is that way now, much of it belonging to Johnson and Johnson or and forgive my spelling Bausch and Lomb.
I am no fan of Cuomo or his politics... And, I am not in New York.
But... He is taking 20% of "unused" medical supplies (including ventilators). It is my impression, reading the advice of other medical experts that the government is being advised to redistribute medical supplies where they are needed, when they are needed.
It is also my impression that nobody in upstate New York is dying due to lack of ventilators, but they are in the Apple. Gotta' be tough to be a doc watching patients die, and having to choose who gets a ventilator and who does not... These are fellow Americans, that did not make the choices or have influence in where or how this infection struck, and people are dying, that might be saved.
Quote from: Marc on April 05, 2020, 08:40:01 PM
I am no fan of Cuomo or his politics... And, I am not in New York.
But... He is taking 20% of "unused" medical supplies (including ventilators). It is my impression, reading the advice of other medical experts that the government is being advised to redistribute medical supplies where they are needed, when they are needed.
It is also my impression that nobody in upstate New York is dying due to lack of ventilators, but they are in the Apple. Gotta' be tough to be a doc watching patients die, and having to choose who gets a ventilator and who does not... These are fellow Americans, that did not make the choices or have influence in where or how this infection struck, and people are dying, that might be saved.
He is just taking care of his voters, he does not care about upstate. Also he is going to send in armed national guardsman against Americans to and I quote Cuomo himself "Seize" them from upstate. Here is the thing, there is a stockpile already, he does not need the ones from Downstate, he even admits there is already a stockpile, so there is no need for this action in the first place, he is just trying to murder those that don't vote for him.
Also much of what you are seeing on TV is fake anyway, they proved I think it was CBS used footage from Italy claiming it was from NY Then you have them showing all these people outside that are supposed to be waiting for treatment and it is proven that is also a lie, it was a drill and the exploited it saying it was the epidemic causing this. Sorry Mark but you are believing the lies that are being told and sold by the great propaganda machine known as the media.
Things changed over the weekend and Cuomo walked back on a lot of his initial demands after getting feedback from upstate politicians. Went from seizing to sharing the equipment and as Marc mentioned it is supposed to be 20% of unused supplies, and the National Guard will not be taking anything, though I could see them being used for transportation. Definitely not a fan of him but now is not the time for hyperbole on either side.
Quote from: CAPTJJ on April 05, 2020, 09:14:08 PM
Things changed over the weekend and Cuomo walked back on a lot of his initial demands after getting feedback from upstate politicians. Went from seizing to sharing the equipment and as Marc mentioned it is supposed to be 20% of unused supplies, and the National Guard will not be taking anything, though I could see them being used for transportation. Definitely not a fan of him but now is not the time for hyperbole on either side.
Sharing by force is not sharing, it is seizing. How about the fact that he shipped a bunch of contaminated people all through upstate contaminating us. He does not care about us, as a matter of fact he has made it clear more than once he hates us, nothing but a dictator who panders to the subjects that love him and steps on those of us that don't. I pray for succession.
This is from Daniel Stec, our local NYS Assemblyman and Senate candidate who actually speaks with the Governor, not from the media:
QuoteI am cautiously optimistic to announce with my update today......that Governor Cuomo has listened to us and has backed off, FOR NOW, sending the National Guard to take ventilators. He acknowledges that he has heard the concern from upstate and is changing his approach. As of right now, he isn't taking ANY upstate ventilators, and that if he does get need additional ventilators, he will be asking for them NOT taking them.
Let me just take an important moment to say how much we love and truly care for all our downstate New Yorkers. We are indeed one state --- we all have friends and families that live downstate, and I encourage people to pray for them daily. I am proud that we have sent loads of PPEs downstate, all while taking COVID 19 patients upstate. We are here to do our part.
But also, let me caution everyone to say this is the update as we sit here today. I sent the message to Governor that we appreciate him listening, and we want to keep an open line of communication. Let be clear, my message is, and will still be, that we need ALL of our precious few ventilators to stay in our communities, especially due to our aged population base.
There will be one additional point I will be discussing on today's Governor's Office daily conference call. The Governor, today at his press conference, stated he hasn't heard from any communities that have concerns of individuals coming to their second homes to live. This has been something that I have expressed concern about for weeks, and my message has fallen on deaf ears. Today, I will be having additional conversations where I will be even more loudly expressing my major concern with this problem. We HAVE TO stop the flow of downstate residents to their second homes upstate. It's too dangerous and not a smart policy for it to allow to continue.
Let me close by saying, I realize there are strong emotions around these issues being discussed. It's life and death. I understand that there are people that don't agree with me. I accept your criticism. I hear your criticism. But I'm doing what I think is best for our community, given all the circumstances after talking with all the individuals concerned. Please continue to provide civil dialogue in the comments. I'm being as honest and transparent as possible to keep everyone updated.
Stay safe and healthy!!!
Does not really mean anything to me. I think anybody that flees to upstate needs to be put in prison because what they are doing is basically negligent homicide.
If Cuomo real did say this
stated he hasn't heard from any communities that have concerns of individuals coming to their second homes to live
Then he's lying because everyone is dealing with all the Northeast refugees flooding their state. That's why RI & FL put the National guard on their boarders. He even criticized RI for doing it so he can't say he doesn't.
Don't understand the purpose of the state shutdown if we let thousands of people from a hot spot drive in and take up residence.
First stop is grocery store than a testing center. If positive they want a hospital bed.
Yes... Cuomo's politics are generally atrocious... His idiot brother is no better. But...
Seems to me, that you have people dying in one part of the state because they don't have ventilators... And you have ventilators in another part of the state that are not being used.
You fight the fires where they are, not where they might be. Some of those unused ventilators could potentially be saving lives... American lives. Allocate the resources when & where they are needed, and if Cuomo does not move them back when they are needed, hang him.
Quote from: Crghss on April 05, 2020, 10:09:50 PM
If Cuomo real did say this
stated he hasn't heard from any communities that have concerns of individuals coming to their second homes to live
Then he's lying because everyone is dealing with all the Northeast refugees flooding their state. That's why RI & FL put the National guard on their boarders. He even criticized RI for doing it so he can't say he doesn't.
Don't understand the purpose of the state shutdown if we let thousands of people from a hot spot drive in and take up residence.
First stop is grocery store than a testing center. If positive they want a hospital bed.
Actually they are saying over a million fled the city. We have gotten several here in Upstate, my stepfather in PA said they got a ton of them as well.
Quote from: Marc on April 05, 2020, 10:29:38 PM
Yes... Cuomo's politics are generally atrocious... His idiot brother is no better. But...
Seems to me, that you have people dying in one part of the state because they don't have ventilators... And you have ventilators in another part of the state that are not being used.
You fight the fires where they are, not where they might be. Some of those unused ventilators could potentially be saving lives... American lives. Allocate the resources when & where they are needed, and if Cuomo does not move them back when they are needed, hang him.
Marc please, as I have stated, he has a stockpile of ventilators, he even admitted to having a stockpile https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/04/01/fact-check-does-new-york-have-stockpile-unneeded-ventilators/5097170002/?fbclid=IwAR1KBXIzlvBViP9pS1GYvAhqt6Qj10ZtcLBq-kq3eaX5aNux-FhyI0Do9EQ
Also last year or the year before NYC had the chance to buy thousands of them and chose not to and NYC was happy with them for not "wasting money on them" Upstate chose to buy them and be prepared in case something happened, once again Upstate is having to bale out NYC because they CHOOSE not to prepare. Sorry, I do not trust Cuomo to return anything, he has lied to Upstate way to many times and given NYC all the money generated Upstate, let him use that money to buy more elsewhere. Oh by the way, he took $50,000 are year from Special Olympics to give himself a raise even though the state says it is bankrupt, https://www.thedailystar.com/news/local_news/state-budget-gives-cuomo-hefty-pay-raise/article_7f040c37-ce2c-5e36-9bb7-3de8987bb396.html is that that kinda person you believe will return the ventilators?
So you're saying the governor of New York is intentionally killing the citizens of his state? Is there proof or documentation that anyone has died directly because of anything the governor has done or said? Do you have facts to back up this claim?
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Quote from: TravisB on April 06, 2020, 05:54:36 AM
So you're saying the governor of New York is intentionally killing the citizens of his state? Is there proof or documentation that anyone has died directly because of anything the governor has done or said? Do you have facts to back up this claim?
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Read the articles, then go search out how he has transported the sick to upstate, it is all out there and I have to go in a few minutes, check it out.
I think it wouldn't matter what he did, it wouldn't be the right thing for the people that didn't vote for him. Same for Trump, and I'm not a fan of that goofball and his clown show, either. Fact is, nobody has a playbook for how to deal with something like this, but to blatantly accuse someone of murdering people that didn't vote for him is absurd, no matter what you think of their politics. He's the governor of a state, not the dictator of a country. It's just tribal warfare, my tribe versus your tribe, in another form.
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Quote from: Marc on April 05, 2020, 10:29:38 PM
Yes... Cuomo's politics are generally atrocious... His idiot brother is no better. But...
Seems to me, that you have people dying in one part of the state because they don't have ventilators... And you have ventilators in another part of the state that are not being used.
You fight the fires where they are, not where they might be. Some of those unused ventilators could potentially be saving lives... American lives. Allocate the resources when & where they are needed, and if Cuomo does not move them back when they are needed, hang him.
X2 on this, and I'm no Cuomo fan. Sometimes you have to put yourself in someone's situation. If you had a loved one potentially dying in the hospital because of no respirator and a hospital across town had a surplus of respirators but wouldn't part with them...
Not a NYer but..... Hasn't NYC closed 16 hospitals since about '03 due to socialize medicine?
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Quote from: TravisB on April 06, 2020, 06:45:40 AM
I think it wouldn't matter what he did, it wouldn't be the right thing for the people that didn't vote for him. Same for Trump, and I'm not a fan of that goofball and his clown show, either. Fact is, nobody has a playbook for how to deal with something like this, but to blatantly accuse someone of murdering people that didn't vote for him is absurd, no matter what you think of their politics. He's the governor of a state, not the dictator of a country. It's just tribal warfare, my tribe versus your tribe, in another form.
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No tribal warfare, like the way you try to make it what it is not though.
Quote from: Turkeyman on April 06, 2020, 07:08:56 AM
Quote from: Marc on April 05, 2020, 10:29:38 PM
Yes... Cuomo's politics are generally atrocious... His idiot brother is no better. But...
Seems to me, that you have people dying in one part of the state because they don't have ventilators... And you have ventilators in another part of the state that are not being used.
You fight the fires where they are, not where they might be. Some of those unused ventilators could potentially be saving lives... American lives. Allocate the resources when & where they are needed, and if Cuomo does not move them back when they are needed, hang him.
X2 on this, and I'm no Cuomo fan. Sometimes you have to put yourself in someone's situation. If you had a loved one potentially dying in the hospital because of no respirator and a hospital across town had a surplus of respirators but wouldn't part with them...
I would be mad at the governor that had the chance to prepare and did not. I would not potentially cost somebody else their life. By the way they have admitted they have a stockpile, I posted links to that.
Quote from: fallhnt on April 06, 2020, 09:06:32 AM
Not a NYer but..... Hasn't NYC closed 16 hospitals since about '03 due to socialize medicine?
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Not sure on that to be honest.
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So, do you have the numbers on how many people that didn't vote for Cuomo in upstate have died because he intentionally killed them? You said he was murdering people.
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Quote from: TravisB on April 06, 2020, 04:15:01 PM
So, do you have the numbers on how many people that didn't vote for Cuomo in upstate have died because he intentionally killed them? You said he was murdering people.
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He got blocked from doing it. He sure was trying though. He is still responsible for the murder of both unborn and born children, that ought to tell you right there he would murder us given the chance.
1. I am no longer in the loop on this kind of stuff
2. The National Guard is the oldest branch from any service.
3. It is the DUTY is those soldiers to protect the people of New York first not just NYC.
4. For you assholes that don't understand duty, meaning you never wore the uniform figure it out. So easy to sit back and be and say this or say that. Just like the people on her that are judging that Naval Captain. He made a decision to save U.S. Sailors lives. One that you never will have to make but at the end of the day you think or you want to judge him. Shame on you, unless you have ever been in command or responsible for young men and womens lives STFU. Unless you are an E8-06 or higher don't talk about command responsibility because you sound like an idiot
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Quote from: rakkin6 on April 06, 2020, 05:26:44 PM
1. I am no longer in the loop on this kind of stuff
2. The National Guard is the oldest branch from any service.
3. It is the DUTY is those soldiers to protect the people of New York first not just NYC.
4. For you assholes that don't understand duty, meaning you never wore the uniform figure it out. So easy to sit back and be and say this or say that. Just like the people on her that are judging that Naval Captain. He made a decision to save U.S. Sailors lives. One that you never will have to make but at the end of the day you think or you want to judge him. Shame on you, unless you have ever been in command or responsible for young men and womens lives STFU. Unless you are an E8-06 or higher don't talk about command responsibility because you sound like an idiot
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Well I have no idea of this Naval Captain you speak of, but I do know that moral responsibility comes first in everything in life.