Gonna buy some Bottomland pants and shirt,which do you all prefer,Greenleaf or just plain Bottomland?
Thinking about greenleaf so I could use it before and after the green up and also in archery deer season!!What would you choose? :thanks:
I can solve your dilemma...buy 2 shirt!! Greenleaf and plain ol Original bottomland! Just wear bottomland pants all year and then just change shirts after green up..I personally think bottomland pants and greenleaf shirt mix match looks good
Whatever's on sale. I like greenish pants and grey/brown top. Sitting, legs drawn up, green pants are more realistic.
I've always been a fan of the Greenleaf, the old school Greenleaf. The new released stuff is ok if you can find it on quality material, but most of the new stuff is made in China.
My favorite is the old school mossy oak shadow leaf
I have both. Love the original . I wear bottomland early and green leaf later. To be honest both work exceptionally well. Either will take you from start to end of season very well.
BOTTOMLAND
I look like a camo discount bin when I hunt, whatever I have found thats good quality on sale is what I use. I've never had the turkey fashion police critique me yet, but maybe they were and I pulled the trigger before they could provide some advice. ;)
I start with bottomland early season and switch to greenleaf as the woods green up. I wait until the Mossy Oak store runs a sale on the Tibbee II and grab a couple of items them. I think they are on sale now for $20.
Camo is not as critical as guys think. Least not the type especially for turkey.
Lay a few dif outfits out where turkeys frequent. They'll walk right up to it.
If you put a blind up, not even matching cover and the same day birds walk right up to it.
I'll post pic it again. Says it all.
I've kee keed in birds twice wearing a red wool rich jacket in the open in the fall to bow range. Only using a mouth as a whistle as well. Don't overthink it.
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Quote from: Bowguy on February 06, 2019, 12:55:45 PM
Camo is not as critical as guys think. Least not the type especially for turkey.
Lay a few dif outfits out where turkeys frequent. They'll walk right up to it.
If you put a blind up, not even matching cover and the same day birds walk right up to it.
I'll post pic it again. Says it all.
I've kee keed in birds twice wearing a red wool rich jacket in the open in the fall to bow range. Only using a mouth as a whistle as well. Don't overthink it.
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Very true, he also hunted turkeys in an old brown hunting jacket with no face mask or gloves and a shiny shotgun.
Quote from: trkehunr93 on February 06, 2019, 12:59:35 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on February 06, 2019, 12:55:45 PM
Camo is not as critical as guys think. Least not the type especially for turkey.
Lay a few dif outfits out where turkeys frequent. They'll walk right up to it.
If you put a blind up, not even matching cover and the same day birds walk right up to it.
I'll post pic it again. Says it all.
I've kee keed in birds twice wearing a red wool rich jacket in the open in the fall to bow range. Only using a mouth as a whistle as well. Don't overthink it.
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Very true, he also hunted turkeys in an old brown hunting jacket with no face mask or gloves and a shiny shotgun.
My daughters didn't put on face masks. I'm not recommending that I'm just saying a little off pattern is really no sweat
I've said it before deer are a lot easier to hide from than Turkeys.Especially if you don't use decoys. When a gobbler finally decides to go look for the hen that's been answering but won't come to him they are absolutely scrutinizing every inch as they approach. If they see the hen or decoy there attention is somewhat focused on the hen. Ive had Gobblers and hens walk by close while deer hunting I had not called or made any movement so they walked on by just like I was not there, when you call you have caused the turkey to focus on that area, different situation. Ive had Gobblers spook at close range when I was completely camouflaged and motionless, they saw or thought they saw something and that was it. I agree camo is not mandatory but it does help and can make the difference in certain situations.
Also you might want to use another pic of Ol Fred Bear in your camo not nessecary posts. He's wearing a camo jacket in the pic kinda contradicts the statement lol
Quote from: Bowguy on February 06, 2019, 01:07:01 PM
Quote from: trkehunr93 on February 06, 2019, 12:59:35 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on February 06, 2019, 12:55:45 PM
Camo is not as critical as guys think. Least not the type especially for turkey.
Lay a few dif outfits out where turkeys frequent. They'll walk right up to it.
If you put a blind up, not even matching cover and the same day birds walk right up to it.
I'll post pic it again. Says it all.
I've kee keed in birds twice wearing a red wool rich jacket in the open in the fall to bow range. Only using a mouth as a whistle as well. Don't overthink it.
I was just adding to your point that way back when, hunters were pretty successful with ALOT less than what we use today, and a ALOT less turkeys to boot.
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Very true, he also hunted turkeys in an old brown hunting jacket with no face mask or gloves and a shiny shotgun.
My daughters didn't put on face masks. I'm not recommending that I'm just saying a little off pattern is really no sweat
Either one will be a fine choice
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New bottomland would be my choice.
Any turkeys in Louisiana? Lol
Quote from: LaLongbeard on February 06, 2019, 01:17:54 PM
I've said it before deer are a lot easier to hide from than Turkeys.Especially if you don't use decoys. When a gobbler finally decides to go look for the hen that's been answering but won't come to him they are absolutely scrutinizing every inch as they approach. If they see the hen or decoy there attention is somewhat focused on the hen. Ive had Gobblers and hens walk by close while deer hunting I had not called or made any movement so they walked on by just like I was not there, when you call you have caused the turkey to focus on that area, different situation. Ive had Gobblers spook at close range when I was completely camouflaged and motionless, they saw or thought they saw something and that was it. I agree camo is not mandatory but it does help and can make the difference in certain situations.
Also you might want to use another pic of Ol Fred Bear in your camo not nessecary posts. He's wearing a camo jacket in the pic kinda contradicts the statement lol
Well in all honesty ya musta moved something. Lay your suit out near the birds and see if the birds spook. They won't. But you can believe what you like.
Now Fred bear most often is seen wearing a camo jacket. That actually wasn't the point. The point was sitting still is more important than an exact certain camo pattern. If you think one is markedly better than another you're entitled to your difference.
Now the deer turkey difference I much disagree on as well. How many times have you had birds at 5 yards feeding or walking by? Deer never get that close. I believe the difference is turkeys have zero curiosity and skedaddle instantly where deer stand by n stomp a bit.
Least by me. Maybe they're dif where you hunt. Must be your camo not matching lol. Only a joke brother
Motion Free is best Camo!!
I dont think the poster was trying to get a response about using camo or not. He simply asked for preference. Its true being still is the most effective but he asked about opinions between the 2 patterns
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on February 06, 2019, 05:15:28 PM
I dont think the poster was trying to get a response about using camo or not. He simply asked for preference. Its true being still is the most effective but he asked about opinions between the 2 patterns
This happens to every single post on here.
Quote from: Bowguy on February 06, 2019, 03:57:50 PM
Quote from: LaLongbeard on February 06, 2019, 01:17:54 PM
How many times have you had birds at 5 yards feeding or walking by? Deer never get that close.
Because they smell you, not because they see you.
Quote from: LaLongbeard on February 06, 2019, 05:54:58 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on February 06, 2019, 03:57:50 PM
Quote from: LaLongbeard on February 06, 2019, 01:17:54 PM
How many times have you had birds at 5 yards feeding or walking by? Deer never get that close.
Because they smell you, not because they see you.
Turkeys can't smell ya?? Lol. Sometimes they might good point but what about when the wind is blowing perfect? The deer look right at you and turn around and march back up a hill. I understand all about thermals, wind direction, etc.
My point is and was a slight deviation in pattern won't make a giant difference. A preference is certainly anyone's prerogative. Not gonna keep killing the man's thread. Sorry op
Quote from: SD_smith on February 06, 2019, 05:24:49 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on February 06, 2019, 05:15:28 PM
I dont think the poster was trying to get a response about using camo or not. He simply asked for preference. Its true being still is the most effective but he asked about opinions between the 2 patterns
This happens to every single post on here.
You are right. Its great people post on these topics but sometimes its like they dont even want to answer the question. They put in infinate wisdom that really Does not contribute to what the poster is asking.
Quote from: Bowguy on February 06, 2019, 06:04:24 PM
Quote from: LaLongbeard on February 06, 2019, 05:54:58 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on February 06, 2019, 03:57:50 PM
Quote from: LaLongbeard on February 06, 2019, 01:17:54 PM
How many times have you had birds at 5 yards feeding or walking by? Deer never get that close.
Because they smell you, not because they see you.
Turkeys can't smell ya?? Lol. Sometimes they might good point but what about when the wind is blowing perfect? The deer look right at you and turn around and march back up a hill. I understand all about thermals, wind direction, etc.
My point is and was a slight deviation in pattern won't make a giant difference. A preference is certainly anyone's prerogative. Not gonna keep killing the man's thread. Sorry op
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I think La longbeard was just being funny.
Wow just wow. Are you really that retarded you said deer never get 5 yards from you. And I said Because they smell you, you asked the question and then you don't understand what you posted. I don't care if you wear camo or not but if you believe a deer has the equivalent eyesight as a turkey there's something wrong with you or you've never hunted either. And for anyone else that didn't understand the post well that's just sad. Its words ....you put them together to make a sentence lol
Pick the one you like best. Personally I think the new bottomland blends better where i hunt but that may not be the case for you. The biggest no no in camo for me is noisy material or if it has that sheen in sunlight that some of the newer fabrics have. Other than that I wouldn't sweat it much.
I buy whatever is on sale. I think movement or a wrong setup gets a person busted faster than not having the right camo on.If I worried about it probably bottomland pants and bottomland shirt early in the season. At green up,bottomland pants, greenleaf shirt.
Quote from: LaLongbeard on February 06, 2019, 06:37:41 PM
Wow just wow. Are you really that retarded you said deer never get 5 yards from you. And I said Because they smell you, you asked the question and then you don't understand what you posted. I don't care if you wear camo or not but if you believe a deer has the equivalent eyesight as a turkey there's something wrong with you or you've never hunted either. And for anyone else that didn't understand the post well that's just sad. Its words ....you put them together to make a sentence lol
This is a good site. Watch how you talk. I never said/meant truly never. Very rarely might be better but the numbers of deer that get that close and turkeys when only eyesight is used is skewed toward turkeys coming close.
Never said a deers eyes are better. What you got a reading comprehension issue? Why do all you guys from that state so arguementive. Line breeding I guess, everyone is the same lol
Greenleaf, Bottomland, and Obession
I love the bottomland but you can't go wrong with either
I wear mossy oak, I like it pretty well. It's not too expensive I like the bottomland and the obsession (not nwtf obsession). I'm not bad enough to kill one with no camo yet .
Quote from: kytrkyhntr on February 06, 2019, 08:04:49 PM
I wear mossy oak, I like it pretty well. It's not too expensive I like the bottomland and the obsession (not nwtf obsession). I'm not bad enough to kill one with no camo yet .
Patience..You'll get there... :fud: :OGani:
I wear a lot of Mossy Oak original breakup though I am trying to get a few long sleeve shirts with a bit more green in them for late season.
Get bottomland pants and Greenleaf top. Done
I smear Louisiana mud on my camo. lol
Quote from: shatcher on February 06, 2019, 08:21:06 PM
I smear Louisiana mud on my camo. lol
Seem overly focused on Louisiana, if you think the La mud will help you have a better season in Tennessee than you did last year I'd be glad to mail you some lol
I get my camo from Goodwill and whatever on sale at Walmart and ebay... I just wear a mix bag of camo and whatever's comfortable...... I've been know to put little Tennessee mud on my camo also...lol
Quote from: LaLongbeard on February 06, 2019, 08:32:56 PM
Quote from: shatcher on February 06, 2019, 08:21:06 PM
I smear Louisiana mud on my camo. lol
Seem overly focused on Louisiana, if you think the La mud will help you have a better season in Tennessee than you did last year I'd be glad to mail you some lol
Careful now . You may have to get a business licence soon for that.
Just like to meet belligerence head on LA. Take it easy on some of these folks. Some may be younger and just trying to learn.
Quote from: shatcher on February 06, 2019, 09:02:35 PM
Take it easy on some of these folks. Some may be younger and just trying to learn.
Trying to learn by being an expert on not using camouflage? Try again.... that makes no sense.
Ima get that sack of mud headed to Tenn lol
Quote from: Bowguy on February 06, 2019, 07:22:02 PM
Quote from: LaLongbeard on February 06, 2019, 06:37:41 PM
Wow just wow. Are you really that retarded you said deer never get 5 yards from you. And I said Because they smell you, you asked the question and then you don't understand what you posted. I don't care if you wear camo or not but if you believe a deer has the equivalent eyesight as a turkey there's something wrong with you or you've never hunted either. And for anyone else that didn't understand the post well that's just sad. Its words ....you put them together to make a sentence lol
This is a good site. Watch how you talk. I never said/meant truly never. Very rarely might be better but the numbers of deer that get that close and turkeys when only eyesight is used is skewed toward turkeys coming close.
Never said a deers eyes are better. What you got a reading comprehension issue? Why do all you guys from that state so arguementive. Line breeding I guess, everyone is the same lol
Definitely a little bit of gene isolation gone wrong down in the bayou.
Quote from: SD_smith on February 06, 2019, 09:15:22 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on February 06, 2019, 07:22:02 PM
Quote from: LaLongbeard on February 06, 2019, 06:37:41 PM
Wow just wow. Are you really that retarded you said deer never get 5 yards from you. And I said Because they smell you, you asked the question and then you don't understand what you posted. I don't care if you wear camo or not but if you believe a deer has the equivalent eyesight as a turkey there's something wrong with you or you've never hunted either. And for anyone else that didn't understand the post well that's just sad. Its words ....you put them together to make a sentence lol
This is a good site. Watch how you talk. I never said/meant truly never. Very rarely might be better but the numbers of deer that get that close and turkeys when only eyesight is used is skewed toward turkeys coming close.
Never said a deers eyes are better. What you got a reading comprehension issue? Why do all you guys from that state so arguementive. Line breeding I guess, everyone is the same lol
Definitely a little bit of gene isolation gone wrong down in the bayou.
That's what this thread was missing a fat guy from SD, glad you made it lol
Quote from: LaLongbeard on February 06, 2019, 09:46:51 PM
Quote from: SD_smith on February 06, 2019, 09:15:22 PM
Quote from: Bowguy on February 06, 2019, 07:22:02 PM
Quote from: LaLongbeard on February 06, 2019, 06:37:41 PM
Wow just wow. Are you really that retarded you said deer never get 5 yards from you. And I said Because they smell you, you asked the question and then you don't understand what you posted. I don't care if you wear camo or not but if you believe a deer has the equivalent eyesight as a turkey there's something wrong with you or you've never hunted either. And for anyone else that didn't understand the post well that's just sad. Its words ....you put them together to make a sentence lol
This is a good site. Watch how you talk. I never said/meant truly never. Very rarely might be better but the numbers of deer that get that close and turkeys when only eyesight is used is skewed toward turkeys coming close.
Never said a deers eyes are better. What you got a reading comprehension issue? Why do all you guys from that state so arguementive. Line breeding I guess, everyone is the same lol
Definitely a little bit of gene isolation gone wrong down in the bayou.
That's what this thread was missing a fat guy from SD, glad you made it lol
Floridian that has been in SD for a couple years lol and yea while it's -10 degrees for a couple months straight you tend to get a little thick for the ladies!
My granddad successfully hunted turkeys for decades and never wore camo a day in his life. He wore a flat green jacket with brown or tan pants & it worked good enough.
I like Bottomland and Treestand the most. Being still, using shade and cover to your advantage helps any clothes blend better.
Jim
Quote from: MISSISSIPPI Double beard on February 06, 2019, 08:20:08 PM
Get bottomland pants and Greenleaf top. Done
I am not sure if that was a comment to me or not, if so thank you for the reply, but those have to be my 2 least liked camo's in the hunting world. Mainly because they are just not great for where I live. I hear they work excellent Down South and the types of trees in that area. I was thinking more like Mossy Oak Obsession old or new style.
I'm going to be unpopular and say it doesn't matter as long as you sit still. I've been wearing a All Predator Calls Kill Suit. Its a hybrid ghillie and does a great job.
Quote from: Gooserbat on February 07, 2019, 01:10:27 AM
I'm going to be unpopular and say it doesn't matter as long as you sit still. I've been wearing a All Predator Calls Kill Suit. Its a hybrid ghillie and does a great job.
I do think that ghillie suits and die cut suits do much more than you standard shirt and pants, but they (ghillie suits) tend to be so hot that I just don't care for them. Sitting still helps a lot no argument.
I don't care as long as it's clean. I mix and match camo constantly
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I wear a leafy suit and any camo as long as it is more light in color rather than dark. This has worked well for me. I've had turkeys within feet of me with no idea I was there.
Thanks for all of you who gave an opinion on the two camo patterns,I guess I will do what some suggested,buy bottomland pants and bottomland shirt and a greenleaf shirt!!
Original mossy oak bottom land or original treestand on the bottom for early season. Original breakup on the top.
Later in the season .....forest floor on the bottom and obsession up top.
I learned a few years ago that if I put my camo netting out in front of me like a screen, that I can wear whatever I want and move my hands, gun, calls, etc. and the turkeys can't see what's going on. My portable netting consists of thin camo plastic "fabric" with holes cut in it for air movement. It's about 8' long and 3' high with a thin bamboo stick hot glued to each end plus one in the middle. It's very light, portable, easy to unroll and I just push the sticks in the ground behind which I rest in my turkey lounger. I successfully used it three times last year, once for each permit I had. The incoming gobblers seem to focus on my Funky Chicken just behind a hen in the breeding position and never give my hiding place, only 20+ yards away, a glance.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on February 06, 2019, 11:59:11 PM
Quote from: MISSISSIPPI Double beard on February 06, 2019, 08:20:08 PM
Get bottomland pants and Greenleaf top. Done
I am not sure if that was a comment to me or not, if so thank you for the reply, but those have to be my 2 least liked camo's in the hunting world. Mainly because they are just not great for where I live. I hear they work excellent Down South and the types of trees in that area. I was thinking more like Mossy Oak Obsession old or new style.
I don't know why you think this was directed at you. It was directed at the OP.
Quote from: Sir-diealot on February 06, 2019, 11:59:11 PM
Quote from: MISSISSIPPI Double beard on February 06, 2019, 08:20:08 PM
Get bottomland pants and Greenleaf top. Done
I am not sure if that was a comment to me or not, if so thank you for the reply, but those have to be my 2 least liked camo's in the hunting world. Mainly because they are just not great for where I live. I hear they work excellent Down South and the types of trees in that area. I was thinking more like Mossy Oak Obsession old or new style.
Also, why would M O obsession work and Greenleaf not? Both are mossy oak camo.
Quote from: MISSISSIPPI Double beard on February 07, 2019, 04:06:47 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on February 06, 2019, 11:59:11 PM
Quote from: MISSISSIPPI Double beard on February 06, 2019, 08:20:08 PM
Get bottomland pants and Greenleaf top. Done
I am not sure if that was a comment to me or not, if so thank you for the reply, but those have to be my 2 least liked camo's in the hunting world. Mainly because they are just not great for where I live. I hear they work excellent Down South and the types of trees in that area. I was thinking more like Mossy Oak Obsession old or new style.
I don't know why you think this was directed at you. It was directed at the OP.
Because it was directly after my comment and I had made the comment about liking darker stuff but wanting to add some green and then you posted with a dark pattern and one with more green to it. Not a big deal.