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Title: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: WNCTracker on April 29, 2018, 08:45:22 AM
I've always said "kill" or "shot" because to me harvesting softens the reality of the act and I don't feel like I should have to do that. I think harvest came along with the popularity of hunting TV shows because I can't remember ever hearing it when I was growing up. I did a google search and found this (very lengthy) article that steven rinella  from Meateater wrote. What do you say?

https://www.google.com/amp/www.themeateater.com/2016/hunting-matters-harvest-or-kill-considering-our-choice-of-language-in-hunting-stories/amp/


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Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: tomstopper on April 29, 2018, 08:54:44 AM
I say kill, leveled, harvest, etc. depending on what ever I feel at the time. What I don't say and drives me nuts is when people say they caught a deer or turkey. They aren't fish and you can't throw them back.....

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Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: WNCTracker on April 29, 2018, 08:57:08 AM
Quote from: tomstopper on April 29, 2018, 08:54:44 AM
I say kill, leveled, harvest, etc. depending on what ever I feel at the time. What I don't say and drives me nuts is when people say they caught a deer or turkey. They aren't fish and you can't throw them back.....

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Yeah that's an odd one that folks say here too. "Got" one yes, "caught" one ....that's just odd.  None of it bothers me in the least so this post wasn't intended as a judgement on others just curious to hear others opinions.


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Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: Spitten and drummen on April 29, 2018, 10:05:11 AM
I kill game , I catch fish and I harvest vegetables. Quiet simple for me.
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: crow on April 29, 2018, 10:43:45 AM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 29, 2018, 10:05:11 AM
I kill game , I catch fish and I harvest vegetables. Quiet simple for me.

thats about it for me also,---- either killed or shot.

back when I was a boy and would sometimes shoot rabbits off of the combine for the pot, they were never "harvested", they were shot. soybeans were combined and corn was picked, even they weren't  "harvested".
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: wade on April 29, 2018, 10:58:15 AM
I write a weekly newspaper column on huntin', fishin' and other outdoorsy stuff. I don't shy away from saying shot or killed but I do mix in taken or harvested just to be more interesting.
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: 1iagobblergetter on April 29, 2018, 11:02:57 AM
I think Harvest was when Obama was in office. Now that Trumps in its OK to say Killed everyone... :TooFunny:
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: guesswho on April 29, 2018, 11:25:56 AM
Killed
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: Marc on April 29, 2018, 11:41:16 AM
Depends on my mood, and the literary tone I want to set...  I like to sound more smarter than I is...

But, most of the people I interact with on a daily basis are not hunters (not against hunting, just not hunters), and harvesting is a bit less off-putting.  With water fowl maybe I got my limit, and with turkeys, I harvested a bird.
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: TauntoHawk on April 29, 2018, 01:08:52 PM
Just catch em like this guy... that way if they aren't big enough you just throw em back

Put up a heck of a struggle when you get a good set of hooks in there though (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180429/09c99aecf7c091e9db09464e7eacb1da.jpg)

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Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: Sixes on April 29, 2018, 01:20:26 PM
I hate to see the word harvested in print when discussing KILLING game animals. 
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: LaLongbeard on April 29, 2018, 02:16:45 PM
I say killed.
But I prefer harvest over "smoked, hammered, fed such and such load" etc etc
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: KentuckyHeadhunter on April 29, 2018, 02:46:56 PM
Quote from: TauntoHawk on April 29, 2018, 01:08:52 PM
Just catch em like this guy... that way if they aren't big enough you just throw em back

Put up a heck of a struggle when you get a good set of hooks in there though (https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180429/09c99aecf7c091e9db09464e7eacb1da.jpg)

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That's hilarious :TooFunny:
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: Happy on April 29, 2018, 02:51:01 PM
I don't think about that aspect. Typically I say killed or took. I am not ashamed of it. Killing is a pretty critical aspect of hunting. Without killing hunting becomes hiking. But I agree that the stupid catch phrases should be grounds for a public beating.
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: howl on April 29, 2018, 02:51:41 PM
When you feed, selectively cull and photographically monitor your deer herd to the point you have pet names for them, then 'harvest' is the correct word just the same as any other kind of farming. Turkeys where I hunt, on the other hand...

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1319/13766878/24797987/413871478.jpg)
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: Gobble! on April 29, 2018, 02:58:07 PM
Depends who I'm talking to. 95% of the time I kill them. The other 5% I harvest them.
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: BrowningGuy88 on April 29, 2018, 03:33:28 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 29, 2018, 10:05:11 AM
I kill game , I catch fish and I harvest vegetables. Quiet simple for me.

Sums it up for me
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: Sir-diealot on April 29, 2018, 04:15:21 PM
Quote from: tomstopper on April 29, 2018, 08:54:44 AM
I say kill, leveled, harvest, etc. depending on what ever I feel at the time. What I don't say and drives me nuts is when people say they caught a deer or turkey. They aren't fish and you can't throw them back.....

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This and people that talk about whitetail deer having "Horns" man that one bugs me.
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: Sir-diealot on April 29, 2018, 04:22:38 PM
Killed, took or got are the phrases I normally use. If there is a small child in the room and I don't know how the parents have raised them I'll say "I got a deer" or if it is a little girl in the same situation I will say "I got one today"
Title: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: WNCTracker on April 29, 2018, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 29, 2018, 04:22:38 PM
Killed, took or got are the phrases I normally use. If there is a small child in the room and I don't know how the parents have raised them I'll say "I got a deer" or if it is a little girl in the same situation I will say "I got one today"
My little girl says kill...  ;-)


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Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: Happy on April 29, 2018, 04:37:08 PM
Quote from: howl on April 29, 2018, 02:51:41 PM
When you feed, selectively cull and photographically monitor your deer herd to the point you have pet names for them, then 'harvest' is the correct word just the same as any other kind of farming. Turkeys where I hunt, on the other hand...

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1319/13766878/24797987/413871478.jpg)
I like your logic sir
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: MISSISSIPPI Double beard on April 29, 2018, 04:57:05 PM
I say kill usually. I have said smoked or hammered occasionally.
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: Sir-diealot on April 29, 2018, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: WNCTracker on April 29, 2018, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 29, 2018, 04:22:38 PM
Killed, took or got are the phrases I normally use. If there is a small child in the room and I don't know how the parents have raised them I'll say "I got a deer" or if it is a little girl in the same situation I will say "I got one today"
My little girl says kill...  ;-)


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Yes but she has grown up around it I am guessing?
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: WNCTracker on April 29, 2018, 06:39:57 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 29, 2018, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: WNCTracker on April 29, 2018, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 29, 2018, 04:22:38 PM
Killed, took or got are the phrases I normally use. If there is a small child in the room and I don't know how the parents have raised them I'll say "I got a deer" or if it is a little girl in the same situation I will say "I got one today"
My little girl says kill...  ;-)


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Yes but she has grown up around it I am guessing?
Of course!  When she was 3 she learned how to quarter a buck while sitting on my tailgate. To quote her, "that meat smells good dada."


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Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: Sir-diealot on April 29, 2018, 06:44:01 PM
Quote from: WNCTracker on April 29, 2018, 06:39:57 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 29, 2018, 04:57:51 PM
Quote from: WNCTracker on April 29, 2018, 04:32:06 PM
Quote from: Sir-diealot on April 29, 2018, 04:22:38 PM
Killed, took or got are the phrases I normally use. If there is a small child in the room and I don't know how the parents have raised them I'll say "I got a deer" or if it is a little girl in the same situation I will say "I got one today"
My little girl says kill...  ;-)


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Yes but she has grown up around it I am guessing?
Of course!  When she was 3 she learned how to quarter a buck while sitting on my tailgate. To quote her, "that meat smells good dada."


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Parenting done right!
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: roverboy on April 29, 2018, 07:08:49 PM
Quote from: Spitten and drummen on April 29, 2018, 10:05:11 AM
I kill game , I catch fish and I harvest vegetables. Quiet simple for me.
Yep, that sums it up good.
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: MK M GOBL on April 29, 2018, 07:46:24 PM
I Kill Gobblers

MK M GOBL
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: Cut N Run on April 29, 2018, 09:09:11 PM
I say killed, shot, or took a gobbler.  I don't harvest turkeys because I didn't cultivate them.

I have a friend who grows chickens.  He doesn't hatch them, he doesn't kill them, he grows them from chicks to adults and somebody else offs them. He kinda cultivates them, but he doesn't do the harvesting.

Jim
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: GobbleNut on April 29, 2018, 11:52:09 PM
Quote from: Marc on April 29, 2018, 11:41:16 AM
Depends on my mood, and the literary tone I want to set...  I like to sound more smarter than I is...

But, most of the people I interact with on a daily basis are not hunters (not against hunting, just not hunters), and harvesting is a bit less off-putting.  With water fowl maybe I got my limit, and with turkeys, I harvested a bird.

Same here.  It all depends on who I am talking to.  My approach to talking to hunters as compared to non-hunters, or even anti-hunters, is completely different.  It all comes down to the attitude about hunting that I want to convey to the person(s) I am talking to.  When only about three out of every hundred people hunt, it is a good idea to present hunting in the least offensive manner we can.  Sometimes, and especially when talking to certain folks, that means saying "harvest" rather than "kill". 
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: dublelung on April 30, 2018, 12:00:41 AM
Quote from: Sixes on April 29, 2018, 01:20:26 PM
I hate to see the word harvested in print when discussing KILLING game animals.

Me too! If I caused it to die then I KILLED it. Harvest is a feel good word used to please others.
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: Turkeyman on April 30, 2018, 10:07:08 AM
I never say harvest....that's for vegetable gardens and such. Just about any other synonym though.
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: kjnengr on April 30, 2018, 10:22:41 AM
Quote from: howl on April 29, 2018, 02:51:41 PM
When you feed, selectively cull and photographically monitor your deer herd to the point you have pet names for them, then 'harvest' is the correct word just the same as any other kind of farming. Turkeys where I hunt, on the other hand...

(http://pic20.picturetrail.com/VOL1319/13766878/24797987/413871478.jpg)

I completely agree.  I think it started with the TV deer hunters for this very reason.  It has since spilled over to the everyday deer hunter and turkey hunter.  I personally never use the word "harvest".  I either killed or got my turkeys, deer, etc.
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: BTH on April 30, 2018, 10:48:38 AM
Kill meat, harvest fruits and veggies.
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: tha bugman on April 30, 2018, 12:22:25 PM
kill...I harvest my garden. 
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: Big Jeremy on April 30, 2018, 12:38:59 PM
I probably use the word "got" more frequently than anything else. Either that, or killed.
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: Gooserbat on April 30, 2018, 01:50:49 PM
I use about every phrase except "shoot em n the face".
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: the Ward on April 30, 2018, 03:35:08 PM
I never use the term harvest to describe the taking of game. I have used "got" or tagged, bagged, killed or shot. I do notice that a lot of people I know around here that don't hunt use the term, "catch." They will ask me "did you catch one?"
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: outdoorsmen on April 30, 2018, 11:52:19 PM
I say that "i shot him in the face"....if you dont like it i dont need to be talking to you...
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: GobbleNut on May 01, 2018, 08:39:33 AM
Once again, how I speak about hunting is totally based on who I am talking to.  Among my hunting friends, we use terminology that none of us would ever consider using when talking about it in a group of non-hunters.  Among those non-hunting folks (and, heaven forbid, among anti-hunters), it is imperative that we portray a respect (a "reverence", if you will) for what we do and the act of taking an animal's life.

So, why use the term "harvest" as opposed to "kill" in certain situations?  It is all about the perception you give to those you are talking to,...that is, how they mentally interpret the two words. 

Whether we like it or not, our numbers are shrinking, while the number of those that oppose what we do is steadily rising.  In the middle is the vast majority of folks that have no real problem with hunting, but they expect hunters to show the proper respect for the act of taking an animals life. 

Sometimes that respect is portrayed by simply using terminology like "harvest" rather than "kill" when speaking to them about it.  I totally understand why, as hunters, we disdain the use of words like "harvest" to describe the act of "killing".  However, it is not about how WE feel or think about it,...it is about what those folks that control our destiny think about it. 

Anybody that does not "get" that reality is doing a disservice to the hunting community and the future of our way of life by not understanding that the terminology they use can, and most likely will, have an impact on whether or not our kids and their kids will even have the chance to hunt. 

Sermon over for now....
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: THattaway on May 01, 2018, 09:48:56 AM
Probably use "kill" mostly but "harvest" simply means you are going to eat what you killed or caught. Kill means just that, kill. For those that take issue to whatever term is used, well, just go look them up in a dictionary. Never used either term intending to lessen or magnify the event and never with regard to whomever I was talking to at the time. If you say "smack down", "shot him in da face" or all the other trendy catch phrases then you are just a pot calling the kettle black, one end of the spectrum griping about the other end's extremity.
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: stinkpickle on May 01, 2018, 10:14:38 AM
I say "shuttled him off this mortal coil".
Title: Re: So you "harvest" or "kill" gobblers when telling stories
Post by: THattaway on May 01, 2018, 11:12:11 AM
Stinkpickle,
Good to see you on here. Was hunting the other day and wondered how you were doing, "milk was a bad choice".

As for kill terms, well it is hard to top "limb whoopin" a turkey.